If you were concerned that the next Avengers movie, Avenger: Infinity War, slated for 2018, would contain 150 Marvel characters and sacrifice drama, storytelling and memory storage to too many characters running around, rest easy: there will only be 100 characters in the film. That’s because the Marvel Netflix character can’t really cross over into the movies. This little tiddlebit was revealed by A:IW director Anthony Russo—one half of the Directin’ Russo Brothers—who was being interviewed by a Portuguese outlet, and thought, as many have before him, that just because it was in a foreign language he could be be more candid than normal. Google Translate, Anthony. It’s free.

According to one outlet that assayed a translation, it went something like this:

SUPER: The Marvel Cinematic Universe that we see in theaters today is much bigger than the one we first saw with The Avengers. There are many more heroes and there are new pieces being added with the ABC TV series and the Netflix series. How do you organize it? Is there a chance we see Jessica Jones battling Thanos (the villain) in Infinity War?

Anthony Russo: It’s complicated. When we start to serialize the telling of stories it’s difficult. You have to have a lot of control and focus on the course of history. The films are controlled by a group led by Kevin Feige, so they function as a unit. Other products, even if they are from Marvel, are controlled by others. Then there is the possibility of a crossover, but it’s more complicated. It is a smaller scale version of the problem that exists when remembering that Fox holds the rights to some of Marvel’s most popular characters, as does Sony and others. As storytellers, we only have control over what happens in Marvel movies, but everything is possible, Spider-Man (whose rights were held by Sony) became possible!

This TV ban would mean that no Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist or other Defenders in Avengers; Infinity War. Interestingly, the problem doesn’t seem to have extended to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. in the past, as several move characters have crossed over there. But these may predate the separation of Marvel Movies and TV when Kevin Feige declared his independence from Isaac Perlmutter. This led to a “left behind” situation at Marvel TV and publishing. Although there has been much rumor and speculation about retribution exacted from Ike by canceling movies and TV shows, a lot of that appears to have been very targeted news plants and most projects seem to be moving forward.

But that doesn’t mean everyone is lovey dubbins. What is for certain is that Marvel TV is now a foreign studio to Marvel Movies, just as hostile and prickly as Fox. Even though they are both owned by Disney. It’s a situation much like the one that ONCE existed at WB, where movie and TV were Silo’d. They’re now in sync, leading to a lot more opportunities for WB TV at least.

Personally, I’m not that sad to the Netflix characters left out of A:IW. The MCU movies are becoming bloated with crossovers and exposition, just like Greg Land crowd scenes. And the Netflix characters do things movie characters don’t like have sex in unusual positions and drink and have sad things happen. Let TV stay gritty and movies stay lighthearted!

Source: Comic Book Movie:


  1. That’s a drag if it’s true, One of the fun things about Marvel comics are street level characters occasionally have to deal with things outside of their genre. Jessica Jones, as grounded as it is, still happens in a city coping with a fairly recent alien attack. It doesn’t dominate the story but it adds a layer that makes it unique.

  2. It was very smart of them to wait until after Jessica Jones to reveal this.

    Daredevil and Jessica Jones got a big push by being expected to tie into the MCU.
    Now that viewers are hooked, and we’re halfway through the first seasons, they can detach it from the MCU and stiil have viewers interested in Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

  3. “Just like Greg Land crowd scenes.” Okay, that was worth reading to the end for, even though I happen to like Greg Land.

  4. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. most likely doesn’t encounter the same issues as the Netflix shows because ABC, like Marvel, is an arm of the Disney conglomerate. That’s also why we can get shows like Peggy Carter.

  5. Wow guys … this piece is pretty speculative and not based on much fact. I’ll also add that the Netflix shows DO reference the movies and are productions of ABC Studios. If anything, I’m pretty sure that Marvel TV will try NOT to get in the way of the Marvel MCU. (So you won’t have that Suicide Squad situation that went down with DC on Arrow.)

  6. I’m glad. I don’t want to see my ‘street level’ heroes in the movies, because other than Captain America, I don’t watch any of the other films.

  7. “Let TV stay gritty and movies stay lighthearted!”, but Netflix is not TV, and I have strong feeling that Deadpool movie is going to “have sex in unusual positions and drink and have sad things happen”…?

    Agents of SHIELD, and Agent Carter are both like ‘Telemundo’, a friend of mine from Mexico City once said. It’s soo bad, so bad, sooo very very hard to swallow, yet I dug the first season of Agent Carter, though -she jumped the shark when she poured that blood, but the scene in Ant-man was cool.. (I make myself laugh, at myself).

    Netflix Daredevil is like the TV, and movie version of the Flash -why is red hair considered soo terribly ‘non-marketable’, that Alonso gets away with saying how (on a Youtube posted radio talk show promoting the hip hop album cover homages) the Rawhide Kid is gay because he has red hair? OK, I can get over that (pretty much, even though it is totally bigoted, and pathetic of Marvel -so then make Peter Parker’s hair red, if you are going to make Matt Murdock dark-haired on Netflix -or not, thank you), but at the end of the day, the Flash TV is sooo bad, so bad, sooo bad, it totally, yes: Telemundo. I watch it, and fast forward over most of the grueling dialog. So bad, sooo bad, sooo bad. Daredevil was like listening to nails on a chalk board when ‘Foggy Nelson and Karen Page spoke. It was soo pathetic, and transparent, and overbearingly full of self pity, and over the top unnecessary melodrama -the fight scenes were dope, and the actor for Matt / Daredevil is actually OK, mofo should have red hair tho… (iz bull$h!+ mon).

    End of the day, they should cancel Agents of SHEILD, and reboot Strikeforce: Morituri -I mean, if they can get way with Agents of SHIELD, then you can get away with aliens that have balls as chins, right?

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