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	<title>Comments on: Some thoughts on the Eisner Awards</title>
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		<title>By: Troy Little</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-52143</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be ordering &quot;Nominee&quot; seals for my book &quot;Angora Napkin&quot; ASAP! No kidding it&#039;s an honor just to be nominated, I&#039;m going to wear that title with pride the rest of my days!

I had a great time at the Eisners, I don&#039;t see what the fuss is about. 3 hours once a year isn&#039;t much to ask to showcase some of the years best (and I&#039;m saying that as someone who&#039;s gone before as a fan just to clap loudly for those deserving people). 

In any case, anything can be improved upon and I&#039;ve read some good suggestions here. Just keep it happening and keep drawing attention to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be ordering &#8220;Nominee&#8221; seals for my book &#8220;Angora Napkin&#8221; ASAP! No kidding it&#8217;s an honor just to be nominated, I&#8217;m going to wear that title with pride the rest of my days!</p>
<p>I had a great time at the Eisners, I don&#8217;t see what the fuss is about. 3 hours once a year isn&#8217;t much to ask to showcase some of the years best (and I&#8217;m saying that as someone who&#8217;s gone before as a fan just to clap loudly for those deserving people). </p>
<p>In any case, anything can be improved upon and I&#8217;ve read some good suggestions here. Just keep it happening and keep drawing attention to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Derrick Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derrick Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s extra sad to me is that this is the first &quot;Eisner Awards&quot; article I&#039;ve seen regarding ComicCon in the past week. It&#039;s even overlooked withing comic news circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s extra sad to me is that this is the first &#8220;Eisner Awards&#8221; article I&#8217;ve seen regarding ComicCon in the past week. It&#8217;s even overlooked withing comic news circles.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rowland</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-52010</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Rowland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good suggestions.  The current ceremony just doesn&#039;t work for me -- too long for me to just sit there.  Before the ceremony, I was bemoaning the fact that so few fans attend.  Afterwards, I understood why.  Reading Heidi&#039;s blog was a much better use of my time to find out what happened and who won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good suggestions.  The current ceremony just doesn&#8217;t work for me &#8212; too long for me to just sit there.  Before the ceremony, I was bemoaning the fact that so few fans attend.  Afterwards, I understood why.  Reading Heidi&#8217;s blog was a much better use of my time to find out what happened and who won.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-51987</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been to Comic-Con in awhile, but every year that I went, I attended the Eisners. It was my favorite event for the week. I remember they used to serve a dinner before the ceremony -- with reserved tables and gift bags. It was nice. Did they stop doing that?

Streaming the award show online would be great, especially for people like me who can&#039;t make it to San Diego every year. I&#039;d like to hear the speeches. And I want to know who skipped out.

Also, the Eisners need a better &quot;official site.&quot; In this regard, the Harveys have the Eisners beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been to Comic-Con in awhile, but every year that I went, I attended the Eisners. It was my favorite event for the week. I remember they used to serve a dinner before the ceremony &#8212; with reserved tables and gift bags. It was nice. Did they stop doing that?</p>
<p>Streaming the award show online would be great, especially for people like me who can&#8217;t make it to San Diego every year. I&#8217;d like to hear the speeches. And I want to know who skipped out.</p>
<p>Also, the Eisners need a better &#8220;official site.&#8221; In this regard, the Harveys have the Eisners beat.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Krause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Eisner nominee seal already appears on the latest printing of the &quot;Irredeemable&quot; trade, volume #1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Eisner nominee seal already appears on the latest printing of the &#8220;Irredeemable&#8221; trade, volume #1.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-51914</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Eisner seal is a great idea.  I had this exact conversation with someone at ALA, who claimed that it didn&#039;t make sense because the people who buy comics won&#039;t care about the seal.  When I pointed out that my mom bought me every Newberry seal-bearing book available, the response was, &quot;Yeah: it was your MOM buying the book based on the seal--not you.&quot;  The thought was that such seals only impress people who aren&#039;t the actual target audience.

But it seems to me that the target audience is the same for both seals: the people who are actually laying down the cash.

And you know what?  Why don&#039;t we just TRY it for a year or two and see what effects it could have?  I simply can&#039;t see why blind nay-saying should be the default response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Eisner seal is a great idea.  I had this exact conversation with someone at ALA, who claimed that it didn&#8217;t make sense because the people who buy comics won&#8217;t care about the seal.  When I pointed out that my mom bought me every Newberry seal-bearing book available, the response was, &#8220;Yeah: it was your MOM buying the book based on the seal&#8211;not you.&#8221;  The thought was that such seals only impress people who aren&#8217;t the actual target audience.</p>
<p>But it seems to me that the target audience is the same for both seals: the people who are actually laying down the cash.</p>
<p>And you know what?  Why don&#8217;t we just TRY it for a year or two and see what effects it could have?  I simply can&#8217;t see why blind nay-saying should be the default response.</p>
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		<title>By: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-51904</link>
		<dc:creator>Synsidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a problem with the Eisner Awards in that the awards don&#039;t relate directly to what makes a given comic informative or entertaining. Awards such as &quot;Best Cover Artist&quot; and &quot;Best Coloring&quot; might cause the winners to rejoice, but they don&#039;t influence buying decisions. In other cases, such as &quot;Best Adaptation from Another Work,&quot; won by Darywn Cooke, the award is good for Cooke, but it won&#039;t lead readers who aren&#039;t interested in Westlake&#039;s &quot;Richard Stark&quot; novels to buy his adaptations. The awards are for work within the format, not within genres, while people generally buy material to read on the basis of the genre, the genre author, or other factors, not the format.

Combine that lack of focus with the lower profiles of creators and the serialization of material,  and there are problems. There are few enough movies produced during the year so that people can see many of them, assemble their &quot;Best of&quot; and &quot;Worst of&quot; lists, follow their favorite actors, etc. A comics reader can&#039;t do that, and he&#039;d have to spend time reading material he had no interest in, just for the sake of knowing about it.

If comics were published primarily as OGNs in a variety of genres and as close-ended works, the awards would be as significant as they are elsewhere in publishing.

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem with the Eisner Awards in that the awards don&#8217;t relate directly to what makes a given comic informative or entertaining. Awards such as &#8220;Best Cover Artist&#8221; and &#8220;Best Coloring&#8221; might cause the winners to rejoice, but they don&#8217;t influence buying decisions. In other cases, such as &#8220;Best Adaptation from Another Work,&#8221; won by Darywn Cooke, the award is good for Cooke, but it won&#8217;t lead readers who aren&#8217;t interested in Westlake&#8217;s &#8220;Richard Stark&#8221; novels to buy his adaptations. The awards are for work within the format, not within genres, while people generally buy material to read on the basis of the genre, the genre author, or other factors, not the format.</p>
<p>Combine that lack of focus with the lower profiles of creators and the serialization of material,  and there are problems. There are few enough movies produced during the year so that people can see many of them, assemble their &#8220;Best of&#8221; and &#8220;Worst of&#8221; lists, follow their favorite actors, etc. A comics reader can&#8217;t do that, and he&#8217;d have to spend time reading material he had no interest in, just for the sake of knowing about it.</p>
<p>If comics were published primarily as OGNs in a variety of genres and as close-ended works, the awards would be as significant as they are elsewhere in publishing.</p>
<p>SRS</p>
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		<title>By: Torsten Adair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torsten Adair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify:

Comic Con International does offer awards seals.  That&#039;s where the above image came from:
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_eisners_seals.shtml

Most people don&#039;t care about comics?
How many people read comic strips?  How many people attend movies based on comic books and graphic novels?

Stream the next Eisner Awards ceremony.  Track how many sites and how many viewers bother to watch.  Slice each award into a separate YouTube video and see who watches and comments.

Like Comic-Con itself, some people might watch just to see a celebrity.  But that&#039;s not much different than have a celebrity endorsement in a commercial.  Let the awards ceremony serve as a big commercial for the awards and the winners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify:</p>
<p>Comic Con International does offer awards seals.  That&#8217;s where the above image came from:<br />
<a href="http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_eisners_seals.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_eisners_seals.shtml</a></p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t care about comics?<br />
How many people read comic strips?  How many people attend movies based on comic books and graphic novels?</p>
<p>Stream the next Eisner Awards ceremony.  Track how many sites and how many viewers bother to watch.  Slice each award into a separate YouTube video and see who watches and comments.</p>
<p>Like Comic-Con itself, some people might watch just to see a celebrity.  But that&#8217;s not much different than have a celebrity endorsement in a commercial.  Let the awards ceremony serve as a big commercial for the awards and the winners.</p>
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		<title>By: darrylayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrylayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Horn,

Again: victim.

I care about comics. The readers of Beat, Comics Reporter, Comics Journal, Daily Crosshatch, Comic Book Resources, Comicon, Newsarama, Scans_Daily, Warren Ellis&#039;s forums, LiveJournal and the thousands who just pick up their pull lists every week care.

No one is saying that being on the same level of cultural awareness as &quot;SPORTS&quot; and &quot;FILM&quot; is the barometer of whether or not we should even bother. We SHOULD bother BECAUSE. WE. CARE.

Comics&#039; low self-esteem is not sexy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Horn,</p>
<p>Again: victim.</p>
<p>I care about comics. The readers of Beat, Comics Reporter, Comics Journal, Daily Crosshatch, Comic Book Resources, Comicon, Newsarama, Scans_Daily, Warren Ellis&#8217;s forums, LiveJournal and the thousands who just pick up their pull lists every week care.</p>
<p>No one is saying that being on the same level of cultural awareness as &#8220;SPORTS&#8221; and &#8220;FILM&#8221; is the barometer of whether or not we should even bother. We SHOULD bother BECAUSE. WE. CARE.</p>
<p>Comics&#8217; low self-esteem is not sexy.</p>
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		<title>By: natsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>natsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 13:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the awards seal idea</description>
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		<title>By: Lee Hester</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-the-eisner-awards/#comment-51870</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The awards are for those that do care. If someone is looking for a Graphic Novel, they might take note of the fact that it won an award for excellence and take that into account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The awards are for those that do care. If someone is looking for a Graphic Novel, they might take note of the fact that it won an award for excellence and take that into account.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Horn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@darrlyayo

It&#039;s not a victim mindset and it&#039;s certainly not poor me. It&#039;s just irrational to expect a widespread interest in comic awards. The Academy Awards and ESPYs are popular because most people like movies and sports. Most people don&#039;t care about comics and pretending like they do isn&#039;t going to make the Eisner Awards matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@darrlyayo</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a victim mindset and it&#8217;s certainly not poor me. It&#8217;s just irrational to expect a widespread interest in comic awards. The Academy Awards and ESPYs are popular because most people like movies and sports. Most people don&#8217;t care about comics and pretending like they do isn&#8217;t going to make the Eisner Awards matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Serhend Sirkecioglu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serhend Sirkecioglu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only recall one time i saw the Eisner Award sticker on a book, it was on later editions of Tekkonkinkreet. until we can get the Wal-Mart moms to buy comics or some more Twilight GNs, I think were still a niche market only to be adapted into hit-or-miss franchise films. I think comics will get bigger when we get that &quot;IDKWTF it&#039;s selling, but thank god it is!&quot; Book(s) and it introduces the general public to comics and they re-establish the industry with their wallets. eh, hopeful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only recall one time i saw the Eisner Award sticker on a book, it was on later editions of Tekkonkinkreet. until we can get the Wal-Mart moms to buy comics or some more Twilight GNs, I think were still a niche market only to be adapted into hit-or-miss franchise films. I think comics will get bigger when we get that &#8220;IDKWTF it&#8217;s selling, but thank god it is!&#8221; Book(s) and it introduces the general public to comics and they re-establish the industry with their wallets. eh, hopeful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenCliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenCliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 03:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torsten has made some very sensible and exciting suggestions. I&#039;d love to see his plan implemented.

Award ceremonies and all-star games and other events that honored excellence all started off small at one time. It wasn&#039;t until someone focused on the event and made it important that it became so. The Academy Awards didn&#039;t start off as a huge, internationally viewed event (well, they didn&#039;t have TV or satellites but that&#039;s besides the point).

My point is, if we say &quot;this is import, this is a moment once a year where the comics industry, the comics community and fans stop what they are doing for one evening and acknowledge the efforts of the best and brightest, then I believe, over time this event could grow into a respected cultural event.

If ESPN can have a televised star-studded evening of awards for the X-games, honoring people who ride skateboards and BMX bikes, I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s a fantasy that an evening of honoring comics writers and artists on a grand scale is asking too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torsten has made some very sensible and exciting suggestions. I&#8217;d love to see his plan implemented.</p>
<p>Award ceremonies and all-star games and other events that honored excellence all started off small at one time. It wasn&#8217;t until someone focused on the event and made it important that it became so. The Academy Awards didn&#8217;t start off as a huge, internationally viewed event (well, they didn&#8217;t have TV or satellites but that&#8217;s besides the point).</p>
<p>My point is, if we say &#8220;this is import, this is a moment once a year where the comics industry, the comics community and fans stop what they are doing for one evening and acknowledge the efforts of the best and brightest, then I believe, over time this event could grow into a respected cultural event.</p>
<p>If ESPN can have a televised star-studded evening of awards for the X-games, honoring people who ride skateboards and BMX bikes, I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s a fantasy that an evening of honoring comics writers and artists on a grand scale is asking too much.</p>
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		<title>By: darrylayo</title>
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		<dc:creator>darrylayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugggghhhhh.

I thought the idea of an official award seal to put on books was great.

William George and Nate Horn: miss me with that &quot;nobody likes comics&quot; talk. Self-defeated, simultaneously, self-absorbed, victimology, &quot;poor me,&quot; what. EVER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugggghhhhh.</p>
<p>I thought the idea of an official award seal to put on books was great.</p>
<p>William George and Nate Horn: miss me with that &#8220;nobody likes comics&#8221; talk. Self-defeated, simultaneously, self-absorbed, victimology, &#8220;poor me,&#8221; what. EVER.</p>
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