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	<title>Comments on: Some thoughts on &#8220;Hell Hall&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52150</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the suggestions: maybe NYCC can institute and put in practice some of Torsten&#039;s ideas in their upcoming Con this Oct.?

#1 seems already to be halfway there, with NYCC&#039;s &quot;IGN Theater Package&quot; that &lt;b&gt;guarantees&lt;/b&gt; a seat in Javits&#039; analogue of Hall H... for those who&#039;ve bought that extra &quot;VIP&quot; ticket cost, that is. #2 can be tried out in that and other Javits panel rooms, to see how the NYCC attendees would react to the practice. #3 likewise for that IGN Theater; though of course, those who hold the &quot;IGN Theater Package&quot; passes would be allowed to stay to keep their seats, since they paid extra for that specific privelege. #4 might be difficult, as it conceivably undercuts the selling of the &quot;IGN&quot; special passes, since &lt;i&gt;regular&lt;/i&gt; NYCC attendees will &#039;attend&#039; those same Theater presentations, just not in the same room.

With NYCC testing out these suggestions, maybe then will SDCC will break out of its organisational inertia of that &lt;i&gt;First Come, First Served/ No clearing of seats&lt;/i&gt; practice it&#039;s been keeping in place all these years...


Just an idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the suggestions: maybe NYCC can institute and put in practice some of Torsten&#8217;s ideas in their upcoming Con this Oct.?</p>
<p>#1 seems already to be halfway there, with NYCC&#8217;s &#8220;IGN Theater Package&#8221; that <b>guarantees</b> a seat in Javits&#8217; analogue of Hall H&#8230; for those who&#8217;ve bought that extra &#8220;VIP&#8221; ticket cost, that is. #2 can be tried out in that and other Javits panel rooms, to see how the NYCC attendees would react to the practice. #3 likewise for that IGN Theater; though of course, those who hold the &#8220;IGN Theater Package&#8221; passes would be allowed to stay to keep their seats, since they paid extra for that specific privelege. #4 might be difficult, as it conceivably undercuts the selling of the &#8220;IGN&#8221; special passes, since <i>regular</i> NYCC attendees will &#8216;attend&#8217; those same Theater presentations, just not in the same room.</p>
<p>With NYCC testing out these suggestions, maybe then will SDCC will break out of its organisational inertia of that <i>First Come, First Served/ No clearing of seats</i> practice it&#8217;s been keeping in place all these years&#8230;</p>
<p>Just an idea.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52146</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heidi---


Just tryin&#039; to shake that feeling of &lt;i&gt;deja lu&lt;/i&gt; when I read Torsten&#039;s suggestions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi&#8212;</p>
<p>Just tryin&#8217; to shake that feeling of <i>deja lu</i> when I read Torsten&#8217;s suggestions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52056</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suggested RUBBER wristbands of the “live strong” variety, not the Tyvek/vinyl plastic design favored by hospitals.&quot;

Yes, you did, and I understood that.

&quot;Unfortunately Mark, there isn’t a single thing in that article nor a single incident sited in the article about hospitals confusing medical coded wrist bands with the ones you get at concerts and sporting events.&quot;

There is something in that article about hospitals confusing their own medical coded wrist bands with &quot;RUBBER wristbands of the “live strong” variety&quot; that Torsten Adair suggested instead of the paper ones I have received at events before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suggested RUBBER wristbands of the “live strong” variety, not the Tyvek/vinyl plastic design favored by hospitals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you did, and I understood that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Unfortunately Mark, there isn’t a single thing in that article nor a single incident sited in the article about hospitals confusing medical coded wrist bands with the ones you get at concerts and sporting events.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is something in that article about hospitals confusing their own medical coded wrist bands with &#8220;RUBBER wristbands of the “live strong” variety&#8221; that Torsten Adair suggested instead of the paper ones I have received at events before.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for the hospital wristband confusion, Snopes has an article on it.&quot;

That&#039;s a pretty slimy source.

One of the Snopes folks can&#039;t bear to call it rape when a kid is coerced into sex by his or her parents, and figured a rape victim probably wanted it because she was an unmarried 17-year-old living in a village where most brides are 15: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/cane.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for the hospital wristband confusion, Snopes has an article on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty slimy source.</p>
<p>One of the Snopes folks can&#8217;t bear to call it rape when a kid is coerced into sex by his or her parents, and figured a rape victim probably wanted it because she was an unmarried 17-year-old living in a village where most brides are 15: <a href="http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/cane.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/cane.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52045</link>
		<dc:creator>Torsten Adair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some numbers from the Convention Center website:
Ballroom 6 = 4000 theater seating
Ballroom 20 = 4908
Sails Pavilion = 8700
(Yes, it&#039;s not very conducive to media presentations, but it is column free, and is situated between Ballroom 6 and 20.)
Hall H seats 6700 in a theater configuration.

As for the hospital wristband confusion, Snopes has an article on it.  I suggested RUBBER wristbands of the &quot;live strong&quot; variety, not the Tyvek/vinyl plastic design favored by hospitals.  I suggested rubber wristbands because it makes distribution easier, it simplifies ticket-taking, and it becomes a collectible/badge of honor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some numbers from the Convention Center website:<br />
Ballroom 6 = 4000 theater seating<br />
Ballroom 20 = 4908<br />
Sails Pavilion = 8700<br />
(Yes, it&#8217;s not very conducive to media presentations, but it is column free, and is situated between Ballroom 6 and 20.)<br />
Hall H seats 6700 in a theater configuration.</p>
<p>As for the hospital wristband confusion, Snopes has an article on it.  I suggested RUBBER wristbands of the &#8220;live strong&#8221; variety, not the Tyvek/vinyl plastic design favored by hospitals.  I suggested rubber wristbands because it makes distribution easier, it simplifies ticket-taking, and it becomes a collectible/badge of honor.</p>
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		<title>By: Zemba</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52029</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Diane.  There is no difficulty involved in clearing a room out.  Especially if Comic Con made it a rule.  

An announcement on a speaker would probably do it and for those left behind, a few security guys saying &quot;get out&quot; would be more than enough.  Comic geeks are a superstitious, notoriously unconfrontational lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Diane.  There is no difficulty involved in clearing a room out.  Especially if Comic Con made it a rule.  </p>
<p>An announcement on a speaker would probably do it and for those left behind, a few security guys saying &#8220;get out&#8221; would be more than enough.  Comic geeks are a superstitious, notoriously unconfrontational lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Zemba</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52028</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Mark, there isn&#039;t a single thing in that article nor a single incident sited in the article about hospitals confusing medical coded wrist bands with the ones you get at concerts and sporting events.  I just figured you had left out all the information that supported your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Mark, there isn&#8217;t a single thing in that article nor a single incident sited in the article about hospitals confusing medical coded wrist bands with the ones you get at concerts and sporting events.  I just figured you had left out all the information that supported your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After thought - wished there were other big halls in the other hotels that could disperse the programming that happens in Hall H. If there were at least 2 or 3 different Hall Hs that has separate big Hollywood panels going on, it would help jostle the giant crowd around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After thought &#8211; wished there were other big halls in the other hotels that could disperse the programming that happens in Hall H. If there were at least 2 or 3 different Hall Hs that has separate big Hollywood panels going on, it would help jostle the giant crowd around.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous ideas. 

I think they could even do a simpler version of just clearing the room between panels and creating separate lines for each event.

Even if you want to see more than one panel, the chances of getting a seat again by going to next line is much higher because people are not going to be able to squat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous ideas. </p>
<p>I think they could even do a simpler version of just clearing the room between panels and creating separate lines for each event.</p>
<p>Even if you want to see more than one panel, the chances of getting a seat again by going to next line is much higher because people are not going to be able to squat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-52001</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...Is there any evidence that the wristbands have ever been confused for a medical wrist band or that it’s ever been cause for confusion on the part of hospitals or paramedics? If there is I’d love to see the article that denounces their use...&quot;

I linked to it.  In case clicking the link in my comment and then reading all the paragraphs is too difficult for you, I&#039;ll quote it:

&quot;...There are currently no standards of color choice for hospitals using color-coded wristbands, and each hospital has a different set of colors for different indications. This lack of standardization creates the potential for errors. For example, some hospitals have used yellow to signify “Do Not Resuscitate,” leading to several near-misses with patients wearing yellow Lance Armstrong “Livestrong” bracelets. If a standard color choice existed for DNR orders, the potential for errors with either personal patient wristbands or those used by hospitals would be averted....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Is there any evidence that the wristbands have ever been confused for a medical wrist band or that it’s ever been cause for confusion on the part of hospitals or paramedics? If there is I’d love to see the article that denounces their use&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I linked to it.  In case clicking the link in my comment and then reading all the paragraphs is too difficult for you, I&#8217;ll quote it:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;There are currently no standards of color choice for hospitals using color-coded wristbands, and each hospital has a different set of colors for different indications. This lack of standardization creates the potential for errors. For example, some hospitals have used yellow to signify “Do Not Resuscitate,” leading to several near-misses with patients wearing yellow Lance Armstrong “Livestrong” bracelets. If a standard color choice existed for DNR orders, the potential for errors with either personal patient wristbands or those used by hospitals would be averted&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Beat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Beat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AH yes, Ed, while everyone is away those left at home engage in some poo flinging. 

I pretty much despise the idea of clearing Hall H for each panel. What DOES need to be done is make more passes available for SPECIFIC panels, whether it&#039;s for a fee, or some other means. There is a reserved seating area for Hall H which for the very first time I actually sat in this year, but it isn&#039;t very big -- around 100 seats. These &quot;fast pass&quot; tickets wouldn&#039;t guarantee special seating but at least you could get into the room without camping out over night. I wanted to see the Avengers but not that much.

There were actually several panels at Hall H that WERE NOT FULL,but I think they were on Friday which has a lesser schedule than Thursday and Saturday,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AH yes, Ed, while everyone is away those left at home engage in some poo flinging. </p>
<p>I pretty much despise the idea of clearing Hall H for each panel. What DOES need to be done is make more passes available for SPECIFIC panels, whether it&#8217;s for a fee, or some other means. There is a reserved seating area for Hall H which for the very first time I actually sat in this year, but it isn&#8217;t very big &#8212; around 100 seats. These &#8220;fast pass&#8221; tickets wouldn&#8217;t guarantee special seating but at least you could get into the room without camping out over night. I wanted to see the Avengers but not that much.</p>
<p>There were actually several panels at Hall H that WERE NOT FULL,but I think they were on Friday which has a lesser schedule than Thursday and Saturday,</p>
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		<title>By: David Hopkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are some good ideas. I like some combination of wrist bands and providing close-circuit video feeds. Comic-Con definitely needs to address this issue for next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are some good ideas. I like some combination of wrist bands and providing close-circuit video feeds. Comic-Con definitely needs to address this issue for next year.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-51959</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this discussion seems &lt;i&gt;familiar&lt;/i&gt;---

Just exchange &quot;Facial Stabbing in Hall H&quot; with &quot;FABLES/Venture Bros. Showdown (in Rm 6DE)&quot; as the catalysing conversation starter:
 
http://www.whenmonkeysattack.com/blog/2009/08/06/a-forlorn-snow-white-in-full-costume/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this discussion seems <i>familiar</i>&#8212;</p>
<p>Just exchange &#8220;Facial Stabbing in Hall H&#8221; with &#8220;FABLES/Venture Bros. Showdown (in Rm 6DE)&#8221; as the catalysing conversation starter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whenmonkeysattack.com/blog/2009/08/06/a-forlorn-snow-white-in-full-costume/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.whenmonkeysattack.com/blog/2009/08/06/a-forlorn-snow-white-in-full-costume/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zemba</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-51949</link>
		<dc:creator>Zemba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 03:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I LIKE the fact that you can stay in the room and they don’t clear it out. There are multiple events that I would like to see in the hall and having to leave would suck.&quot;

Idea #5.  Add new award catagory to the Eisners, &quot;most selfish douchebags who don&#039;t want to wait in line like everyone else&quot; award.

Idea #6. Nerf Pens.


&quot;Aw hell NO, NOT *color-coded wristbands*&quot;

Isn&#039;t that done at every single concert and sporting event across the country where they serve beer?  Is there any evidence that the wristbands have ever been confused for a medical wrist band or that it&#039;s ever been cause for confusion on the part of hospitals or paramedics?  If there is I&#039;d love to see the article that denounces their use.  

And if that is the case, wouldn&#039;t picking specific colors to avoid such confusion remedy that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I LIKE the fact that you can stay in the room and they don’t clear it out. There are multiple events that I would like to see in the hall and having to leave would suck.&#8221;</p>
<p>Idea #5.  Add new award catagory to the Eisners, &#8220;most selfish douchebags who don&#8217;t want to wait in line like everyone else&#8221; award.</p>
<p>Idea #6. Nerf Pens.</p>
<p>&#8220;Aw hell NO, NOT *color-coded wristbands*&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that done at every single concert and sporting event across the country where they serve beer?  Is there any evidence that the wristbands have ever been confused for a medical wrist band or that it&#8217;s ever been cause for confusion on the part of hospitals or paramedics?  If there is I&#8217;d love to see the article that denounces their use.  </p>
<p>And if that is the case, wouldn&#8217;t picking specific colors to avoid such confusion remedy that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/07/25/some-thoughts-on-hell-hall/#comment-51946</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw hell NO, NOT *color-coded wristbands*.  Some hospitals use those on patients and one of the colors (not necessarily the same color at each of these hospitals) stands for &quot;this patient has a DNR order.&quot;

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071218122409.htm?from=rss

You do *not* want to be wearing one of those if you have a medical emergency at the con (or anywhere), picked up by an ambulance crew understandably worrying about your pulse and stuff more than your jewelry, and then rushed to a hospital where your event wristband just happens to be the wristband color designated DNR there, just in case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw hell NO, NOT *color-coded wristbands*.  Some hospitals use those on patients and one of the colors (not necessarily the same color at each of these hospitals) stands for &#8220;this patient has a DNR order.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071218122409.htm?from=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071218122409.htm?from=rss</a></p>
<p>You do *not* want to be wearing one of those if you have a medical emergency at the con (or anywhere), picked up by an ambulance crew understandably worrying about your pulse and stuff more than your jewelry, and then rushed to a hospital where your event wristband just happens to be the wristband color designated DNR there, just in case&#8230;</p>
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