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		<title>By: Gucci sacs à main</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-112627</link>
		<dc:creator>Gucci sacs à main</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaussure Gucci, cela se produit ment ce lequel s&#039;av¨¨re ¨otre los angeles fin p california Design Week londonienne, lorsque ces modl&#039;ensemble des ont confirm storage containers . Todd Lynn, Temperley, Aquascutum Michael van der Pork mais Louise Gray, au sein du Milan storage containers . assister not casting dump Gucci.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaussure Gucci, cela se produit ment ce lequel s&#8217;av¨¨re ¨otre los angeles fin p california Design Week londonienne, lorsque ces modl&#8217;ensemble des ont confirm storage containers . Todd Lynn, Temperley, Aquascutum Michael van der Pork mais Louise Gray, au sein du Milan storage containers . assister not casting dump Gucci.</p>
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		<title>By: otistfirefly</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47492</link>
		<dc:creator>otistfirefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&gt;“But cleaning the decks of all the minority characters to bring back all the white guys just smacks of racial insensitivity.

“All the minority characters” = The Atom and Firestorm.

Two characters (who sold jack sh*t when they had their own titles). Hardly a tidal wave of racial insensitivity.&gt;&gt;&#039;

Now now Mark.  Don&#039;t try to bring any practicality and sense to the debate by pointing out that those characters didn&#039;t sell. Racist!! Soon you&#039;ll have &quot;KET&quot; all over you like white on rice.

... sorry. I didn&#039;t mean to use that evil word. I meant, like, er... soy sauce on rice.

... damn!!! Racially insensitive!! Flog me! Just kill Hal and Bruce and Clark and Ollie (again, of course) and be done with the evil old white boring men.

Right, &quot;KET&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;“But cleaning the decks of all the minority characters to bring back all the white guys just smacks of racial insensitivity.</p>
<p>“All the minority characters” = The Atom and Firestorm.</p>
<p>Two characters (who sold jack sh*t when they had their own titles). Hardly a tidal wave of racial insensitivity.&gt;&gt;&#8217;</p>
<p>Now now Mark.  Don&#8217;t try to bring any practicality and sense to the debate by pointing out that those characters didn&#8217;t sell. Racist!! Soon you&#8217;ll have &#8220;KET&#8221; all over you like white on rice.</p>
<p>&#8230; sorry. I didn&#8217;t mean to use that evil word. I meant, like, er&#8230; soy sauce on rice.</p>
<p>&#8230; damn!!! Racially insensitive!! Flog me! Just kill Hal and Bruce and Clark and Ollie (again, of course) and be done with the evil old white boring men.</p>
<p>Right, &#8220;KET&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Briefs and Boxers &#124; The Famous Starstore Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47416</link>
		<dc:creator>Briefs and Boxers &#124; The Famous Starstore Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 4thletter! » Blog Archive » DC Comics: Run the Numbers &#171; the weblog of David A. Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>4thletter! » Blog Archive » DC Comics: Run the Numbers &#171; the weblog of David A. Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 03:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47383</link>
		<dc:creator>Synsidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why aren’t you helping us? becomes a legitimate question.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s a legitimate question when the heroes are congruent with their environment, and that&#039;s never been the case with the mainstream DC and Marvel heroes. Social issues only work in stories when they&#039;re combined with menaces. Supposing that the hero should combat social problems conflicts with the reason he exists, and he, and ten or twenty of his friends couldn&#039;t address problems such as poverty anyway. What are they going to do? Restructure all of American society? Unless they set themselves up as the world&#039;s dictators, problems in real-world Africa would be as much beyond their reach as they&#039;re impossible for the U.S. to solve alone.

Having superheroes battle something other than fantastic problems and menaces results in story logic problems.

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Why aren’t you helping us? becomes a legitimate question.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a legitimate question when the heroes are congruent with their environment, and that&#8217;s never been the case with the mainstream DC and Marvel heroes. Social issues only work in stories when they&#8217;re combined with menaces. Supposing that the hero should combat social problems conflicts with the reason he exists, and he, and ten or twenty of his friends couldn&#8217;t address problems such as poverty anyway. What are they going to do? Restructure all of American society? Unless they set themselves up as the world&#8217;s dictators, problems in real-world Africa would be as much beyond their reach as they&#8217;re impossible for the U.S. to solve alone.</p>
<p>Having superheroes battle something other than fantastic problems and menaces results in story logic problems.</p>
<p>SRS</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Coville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Coville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh, I think O&#039;Neil&#039;s story has a point. 

Assume Hal Jordon saves a planet from an alien invasion or whatever. Great, everybody on the planet lives. But say on that planet one race are brutal slave owners of another race. Imagine the worst of the worst. Those on the receiving end of all that might not think too highly of &quot;Mr. Hero&quot; saving the planet and flying away, turning a blind eye to a horrible ongoing injustice. Heck the alien invasion may not be a totally bad thing for them, if the invaders just attack the people in power and take over - then run things with a lot less brutality, it might be a big improvement for them. Depending on the aliens, it could even be the reason for doing the invasion in the first place.


Transpose that situation to Earth, okay things aren&#039;t THAT bad, but there still a lot of shitty things going on. If their situation isn&#039;t improving any (or only improved due to hard fought battles they&#039;ve won, with no help from any green ring wearing heroes) they might not be so hot on Green Lantern, especially when they see him helping out a guy causing them problems. 

Why aren&#039;t you helping us? becomes a legitimate question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh, I think O&#8217;Neil&#8217;s story has a point. </p>
<p>Assume Hal Jordon saves a planet from an alien invasion or whatever. Great, everybody on the planet lives. But say on that planet one race are brutal slave owners of another race. Imagine the worst of the worst. Those on the receiving end of all that might not think too highly of &#8220;Mr. Hero&#8221; saving the planet and flying away, turning a blind eye to a horrible ongoing injustice. Heck the alien invasion may not be a totally bad thing for them, if the invaders just attack the people in power and take over &#8211; then run things with a lot less brutality, it might be a big improvement for them. Depending on the aliens, it could even be the reason for doing the invasion in the first place.</p>
<p>Transpose that situation to Earth, okay things aren&#8217;t THAT bad, but there still a lot of shitty things going on. If their situation isn&#8217;t improving any (or only improved due to hard fought battles they&#8217;ve won, with no help from any green ring wearing heroes) they might not be so hot on Green Lantern, especially when they see him helping out a guy causing them problems. </p>
<p>Why aren&#8217;t you helping us? becomes a legitimate question.</p>
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		<title>By: Torsten Adair</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47363</link>
		<dc:creator>Torsten Adair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting angle on the GL/GA story...
Superheroes in the DCU tend to deal with the Big Picture while allowing humanity to deal with the everyday emergencies.

I think &quot;All-Star Justice...&quot; I mean &quot;Justice&quot; dealt with the question, &quot;Why aren&#039;t the superheroes more proactive?&quot;

Or, if you want something a bit more disturbing, review the &quot;cat in a tree&quot; scene from the &quot;Superman Doomsday&quot; DVD.

Otherwise, the other side of the coin is something like &quot;Watchmen&quot; or &quot;Squadron Supreme&quot;.

The panel for GL/GA could be viewed as entitlement...  &quot;Why aren&#039;t you solving my problems for me?&quot;  It&#039;s also a bit patronizing... a black man depending on a white man to solve his problems.

Now a better story would be John Stewart dealing with the real world.  Maybe have him interact with a DC&#039;d Luke Cage.

Something in the middle:  the two &quot;Metropolis Mailbag&quot; stories from Superman #64 and #76.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting angle on the GL/GA story&#8230;<br />
Superheroes in the DCU tend to deal with the Big Picture while allowing humanity to deal with the everyday emergencies.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;All-Star Justice&#8230;&#8221; I mean &#8220;Justice&#8221; dealt with the question, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t the superheroes more proactive?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, if you want something a bit more disturbing, review the &#8220;cat in a tree&#8221; scene from the &#8220;Superman Doomsday&#8221; DVD.</p>
<p>Otherwise, the other side of the coin is something like &#8220;Watchmen&#8221; or &#8220;Squadron Supreme&#8221;.</p>
<p>The panel for GL/GA could be viewed as entitlement&#8230;  &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t you solving my problems for me?&#8221;  It&#8217;s also a bit patronizing&#8230; a black man depending on a white man to solve his problems.</p>
<p>Now a better story would be John Stewart dealing with the real world.  Maybe have him interact with a DC&#8217;d Luke Cage.</p>
<p>Something in the middle:  the two &#8220;Metropolis Mailbag&#8221; stories from Superman #64 and #76.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Engblom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Engblom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, look!  Corporate racism &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.examiner.com/x-51430-Green-Lantern-Examiner~y2010m6d11-Introducing-the-new-Aqualad&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;strikes again!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, look!  Corporate racism <a HREF="http://www.examiner.com/x-51430-Green-Lantern-Examiner~y2010m6d11-Introducing-the-new-Aqualad" rel="nofollow"><b>strikes again!</b></a></p>
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		<title>By: mythicagirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythicagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We get the same thing about how we treat our female characters.&quot;

At some point I hope he reviews his comments and kicks his own behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We get the same thing about how we treat our female characters.&#8221;</p>
<p>At some point I hope he reviews his comments and kicks his own behind.</p>
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		<title>By: John K(UK)</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47342</link>
		<dc:creator>John K(UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to the Chaykin interview. Man&#039;s a heckuva talent and a helluva raconteur. Lucky old you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to the Chaykin interview. Man&#8217;s a heckuva talent and a helluva raconteur. Lucky old you!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hynes</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47337</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize, my comments are getting a bit ridiculous. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, my comments are getting a bit ridiculous. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Hynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mark, I guess you&#039;d be on the side of the guardians then whom Hal went against to go on his road trip with Ollie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mark, I guess you&#8217;d be on the side of the guardians then whom Hal went against to go on his road trip with Ollie.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Engblom</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Engblom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between the GA Superman and Hal Jordan was that Hal&#039;s turf covered Space Sector 2814, while the early &quot;activist&quot; Superman confined his mission to the Metropolis area.  Kind of a geographic disparity there...and certainly something to keep in mind when upbraiding a Green Lantern for not spending time at the local community center or soup kitchen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between the GA Superman and Hal Jordan was that Hal&#8217;s turf covered Space Sector 2814, while the early &#8220;activist&#8221; Superman confined his mission to the Metropolis area.  Kind of a geographic disparity there&#8230;and certainly something to keep in mind when upbraiding a Green Lantern for not spending time at the local community center or soup kitchen.</p>
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		<title>By: KET</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/06/10/briefs-boxers-060910/#comment-47329</link>
		<dc:creator>KET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;…which was exactly what Hal Jordan should have replied to the old guy. A Green Lantern, by his very mission, isn’t supposed to do social work. They’re too busy catching stray meteors or fending off alien armadas…which ultimately helps the downtrodden, the middle class, and the wealthy. In other words….everyone. 

Can’t get more inclusive than that.&quot;

Nothing like another nod to failed trickle-down economics to justify a general dismissal; I think the Golden Age Superman would likely argue with the idea that a superhero&#039;s work isn&#039;t social work by nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;…which was exactly what Hal Jordan should have replied to the old guy. A Green Lantern, by his very mission, isn’t supposed to do social work. They’re too busy catching stray meteors or fending off alien armadas…which ultimately helps the downtrodden, the middle class, and the wealthy. In other words….everyone. </p>
<p>Can’t get more inclusive than that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing like another nod to failed trickle-down economics to justify a general dismissal; I think the Golden Age Superman would likely argue with the idea that a superhero&#8217;s work isn&#8217;t social work by nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Hynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the Morrison/Doc Manhattan joke btw. And I think it&#039;s great that a comic from the 70&#039;s is still sparking some sort of debate, even if it is pretty dated and seen as somewhat hammy by today&#039;s standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the Morrison/Doc Manhattan joke btw. And I think it&#8217;s great that a comic from the 70&#8217;s is still sparking some sort of debate, even if it is pretty dated and seen as somewhat hammy by today&#8217;s standards.</p>
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