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	<title>Comments on: DC Month-to-Month Sales &#8212; January 2010</title>
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		<title>By: jordan shoes</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-73515</link>
		<dc:creator>jordan shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice post, thanks for your shareing!</description>
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		<title>By: Message Board Math &#171; Noah Kuttler&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-53375</link>
		<dc:creator>Message Board Math &#171; Noah Kuttler&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 03:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an example, according to Heidi MacDonald&#8217;s DC Month-To-Month January Sales Charts (The Beat), a second-tier non-Superman/non-Batman DC comic book sells around 25,000 copies per [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8900</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two reasons im going to add jonah hex to my pull list;
one is the post by jsf on how the book is written and the other is  the respectful way Mr Palmiotti presented himself here.   I do not usually like creators on comic boards because so many come off rude and get into stupid arguments with other who make stupid comments.
Nice to see a creator with a different attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two reasons im going to add jonah hex to my pull list;<br />
one is the post by jsf on how the book is written and the other is  the respectful way Mr Palmiotti presented himself here.   I do not usually like creators on comic boards because so many come off rude and get into stupid arguments with other who make stupid comments.<br />
Nice to see a creator with a different attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Argondezzi</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8317</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Argondezzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be interesting to see the rest of the figures for the Image dollar books, and others. If the volume is held up at 1.00 price/profit points, I wonder if there will be a reevaluation by retailers for profit margins concerning smaller companies that can jump in at the lower price points.

As Mr Spock (Leonard Nimoy) would say, &quot;Facinating.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see the rest of the figures for the Image dollar books, and others. If the volume is held up at 1.00 price/profit points, I wonder if there will be a reevaluation by retailers for profit margins concerning smaller companies that can jump in at the lower price points.</p>
<p>As Mr Spock (Leonard Nimoy) would say, &#8220;Facinating.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8308</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AoD, you wrote:

&quot;[Roger Ebert] IS an authority on film, and I often trust his opinion even though I don’t always agree with it.&quot;

And then you wrote this:

&quot;An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they’re more likely to be believed. Siskel and Ebert are the best examples.&quot;

Holy shit, you&#039;re an idiot.

Critics do not provide facts, they provide opinions.

That&#039;s why they&#039;re call critics and not the Arbiters of What is Objectively Good and Bad.

Because there is no objectively good and bad in art.

I don&#039;t even know what your original point was, but I do know you keep digging this hole deeper and deeper with your nonsense. Now you&#039;re stuck.

Give up already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AoD, you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;[Roger Ebert] IS an authority on film, and I often trust his opinion even though I don’t always agree with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And then you wrote this:</p>
<p>&#8220;An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they’re more likely to be believed. Siskel and Ebert are the best examples.&#8221;</p>
<p>Holy shit, you&#8217;re an idiot.</p>
<p>Critics do not provide facts, they provide opinions.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re call critics and not the Arbiters of What is Objectively Good and Bad.</p>
<p>Because there is no objectively good and bad in art.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know what your original point was, but I do know you keep digging this hole deeper and deeper with your nonsense. Now you&#8217;re stuck.</p>
<p>Give up already.</p>
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		<title>By: Army of Dorkness</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8307</link>
		<dc:creator>Army of Dorkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Michael Aronson...seem to be intelligent guys&quot;

Also, I take this back.  You didn&#039;t deserve it.  I was trying to be nice, and in return I get patronized.  

Ah, the internet.  &quot;Where everybody is equal.  Except for those of us who are better than you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Michael Aronson&#8230;seem to be intelligent guys&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, I take this back.  You didn&#8217;t deserve it.  I was trying to be nice, and in return I get patronized.  </p>
<p>Ah, the internet.  &#8220;Where everybody is equal.  Except for those of us who are better than you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Army of Dorkness</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8304</link>
		<dc:creator>Army of Dorkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, you’re not talking about facts, you’re talking about opinions.

Kid, you really should sit this one out.&quot;

No, I wasn&#039;t.  I think you should sit it out because you seem to be commenting on and responding to things that aren&#039;t there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, you’re not talking about facts, you’re talking about opinions.</p>
<p>Kid, you really should sit this one out.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I wasn&#8217;t.  I think you should sit it out because you seem to be commenting on and responding to things that aren&#8217;t there.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8292</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve looked at several reviews of POWER GIRL #9. The reviews were favorable, but it was a matter of the reviewers sharing Palmiotti’s and Gray’s sense of humor and loving the artwork. The series might be as dependent on the artwork for its success as any series out there.&quot;

Actually, I had in mind the reviews of the first four issues - you know, the ones people actually bought before jumping off the title. I imagine the people who still review it still like it, but the reviews for early issues generally weren&#039;t very favorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve looked at several reviews of POWER GIRL #9. The reviews were favorable, but it was a matter of the reviewers sharing Palmiotti’s and Gray’s sense of humor and loving the artwork. The series might be as dependent on the artwork for its success as any series out there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I had in mind the reviews of the first four issues &#8211; you know, the ones people actually bought before jumping off the title. I imagine the people who still review it still like it, but the reviews for early issues generally weren&#8217;t very favorable.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8291</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they’re more likely to be believed.&quot;

No, you&#039;re not talking about facts, you&#039;re talking about opinions.

Kid, you really should sit this one out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they’re more likely to be believed.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re not talking about facts, you&#8217;re talking about opinions.</p>
<p>Kid, you really should sit this one out.</p>
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		<title>By: Army of Dorkness</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8287</link>
		<dc:creator>Army of Dorkness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It would be great if people who feel threatened by the arguments presented by those with differing opinions wouldn’t try to participate in discussions they’re unable to comprehend and handle.&quot;

I know you&#039;re not indirectly talking about me.  I don&#039;t fit the description.  Since you are responding to a quote from my comment, I thought I should respond.  I do agree with that, though.  A person that is threatened or emotionally involved can find it difficult to handle a discussion and end up making things worse.  

&quot;even people who are “authorities on the subject” still only provide opinions.&quot;

Case in point... you agree with what I said but neglected to actually respond to it.  SRS responded to me on your behalf and made things worse.  

An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they&#039;re more likely to be believed.  Siskel and Ebert are the best examples.  They often disagreed, but each one&#039;s opinion was often trusted because they were authorities on the subject.  

&quot;No amount of money a reviewer receives will ever change that.&quot;

I made no mention of money.  

I&#039;d also like to point out that I didn&#039;t say anyone&#039;s opinion was invalid.  I provided counterpoints and contrary opinions of my own.  Both Michael Aronson and (begrudgingly) SRS seem to be intelligent guys that many people disagree with.  That&#039;s life on the internet, folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It would be great if people who feel threatened by the arguments presented by those with differing opinions wouldn’t try to participate in discussions they’re unable to comprehend and handle.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re not indirectly talking about me.  I don&#8217;t fit the description.  Since you are responding to a quote from my comment, I thought I should respond.  I do agree with that, though.  A person that is threatened or emotionally involved can find it difficult to handle a discussion and end up making things worse.  </p>
<p>&#8220;even people who are “authorities on the subject” still only provide opinions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Case in point&#8230; you agree with what I said but neglected to actually respond to it.  SRS responded to me on your behalf and made things worse.  </p>
<p>An authority is better at finding the facts and has a better understanding of the medium so that when they point out facts they&#8217;re more likely to be believed.  Siskel and Ebert are the best examples.  They often disagreed, but each one&#8217;s opinion was often trusted because they were authorities on the subject.  </p>
<p>&#8220;No amount of money a reviewer receives will ever change that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I made no mention of money.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to point out that I didn&#8217;t say anyone&#8217;s opinion was invalid.  I provided counterpoints and contrary opinions of my own.  Both Michael Aronson and (begrudgingly) SRS seem to be intelligent guys that many people disagree with.  That&#8217;s life on the internet, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Synsidar</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8284</link>
		<dc:creator>Synsidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Er . . . kidding, yes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve looked at several reviews of POWER GIRL #9. The reviews were favorable, but it was a matter of the reviewers sharing Palmiotti&#039;s and Gray&#039;s sense of humor and loving the artwork. The series might be as dependent on the artwork for its success as any series out there.

SRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>Er . . . kidding, yes?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at several reviews of POWER GIRL #9. The reviews were favorable, but it was a matter of the reviewers sharing Palmiotti&#8217;s and Gray&#8217;s sense of humor and loving the artwork. The series might be as dependent on the artwork for its success as any series out there.</p>
<p>SRS</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8279</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most people who review things are not an authority on the subject. I can’t think of a single comic book reviewer that has that status, so most of them amount to opinions.&quot;

Er, even people who are &quot;authorities on the subject&quot; still only provide opinions. Those opinions are often more informed and better constructed and supported, but they&#039;re still opinions. No amount of money a reviewer receives will ever change that.

&quot;It would be great if people wouldn’t pass off their opinions as authoritative criticism.&quot;

It would be great if people who feel threatened by the arguments presented by those with differing opinions wouldn&#039;t try to participate in discussions they&#039;re unable to comprehend and handle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most people who review things are not an authority on the subject. I can’t think of a single comic book reviewer that has that status, so most of them amount to opinions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Er, even people who are &#8220;authorities on the subject&#8221; still only provide opinions. Those opinions are often more informed and better constructed and supported, but they&#8217;re still opinions. No amount of money a reviewer receives will ever change that.</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be great if people wouldn’t pass off their opinions as authoritative criticism.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be great if people who feel threatened by the arguments presented by those with differing opinions wouldn&#8217;t try to participate in discussions they&#8217;re unable to comprehend and handle.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8278</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Aronson has been around long enough and is serious enough about his reviews . . .&quot;

Hey, thanks a ton for searching my name to find my reviews. The Astro Boy Essays was probably the last book I wrote a published online review for, though. It&#039;s been a while and I do kind of miss it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Aronson has been around long enough and is serious enough about his reviews . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, thanks a ton for searching my name to find my reviews. The Astro Boy Essays was probably the last book I wrote a published online review for, though. It&#8217;s been a while and I do kind of miss it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Aronson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8277</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Aronson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Given that the book has been almost universally praised . . .&quot;

Er . . . kidding, yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Given that the book has been almost universally praised . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Er . . . kidding, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Saber Tooth Tiger Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2010/03/04/dc-month-to-month-sales-january-2010/#comment-8263</link>
		<dc:creator>Saber Tooth Tiger Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure. Jim is probably a quality creator but as we know there&#039;s often inverse relationship between what is perceived as quality  and  by what a vast majority of consumers actually buy. Too many times industry awards are given to comics that very few people bought, with rare exceptions. A lot of things I like or liked will be disliked by you all and vice versa. So really, the issue of quality is subjective.  Quality is subjective to sensibilities. I think a lot of sensibilities tend to correlate to  demographics. When someone started reading comics really determines what they gravitate towards. There are lots of  people who are fans of comics from the 1970s  or the 80s  and think comics from those decades are vastly superior to those from now. At the same time, they&#039;re completely unaware of bad work that was produced then. Another way  Demographics  are being  influenced  right now is by social class.  Social class  which tends to influence how someone sees the world and what they value. Of course, fine art is seen as a luxury and is something people with affluence bestow  upon their children. Not surprisingly, it&#039;s not meant to appeal to those who aren&#039;t affluent or  liberal arts educated. If I were to use the current metric of quality used by some regular posters on the Beat here, the  only real comics that are produced right now would be coming from  Fantagraphics and the Comics Journal , which I will say are biased towards crude looking comics or comics books over-intellectualized. They tend to suck any fun out comics for the sake of being deep and philosophical....and failing miserably at being really deep or philosophical most of the time.  Picasso is overrated. How accurately can  the quality of his work be assessed when his work appeals to very few people?  Because a bunch of billionaires like his work means his work forfills the promises of great art? Liking Picasso isn&#039;t a sign of intelligence yet people keep thinking it is and in addition to that &quot;appreciating&quot; Picasso somehow makes them cultured. Picasso&#039;s appeal is in short, snob appeal. It&#039;s about trying to appear to be of a higher social status by having a rich man&#039;s tastes. 

The thing I always liked about comics is that this high-brow elitist mentality wasn&#039;t ingrained in it. 
Not all good writing has to be literary.  All the artwork doesn&#039;t need to fit in with what&#039;s going on in the Contemporary Art scene.  


I like Daniel Clowes and I like  Todd McFarlene. Comics as  medium shouldn&#039;t equal Jim Lee or Daniel Clowes  exclusively.Depending on who you are or where you come from, one is acceptable one the other cringe-inducing. I don&#039;t know if liking Jim Lee&#039;s work  is an issue of &quot;low quality&quot; standards as much different standards. The mainstream is mainstream for a reason. It appeals to the widest variety of people. Non-mainstream stuff will not.
I think there&#039;s a serious question as to whether superheroes are the genre that appeals to the widest cross-section of people but other than that, should it be disliked simply because it&#039;s popular?


Jim treads a  mid to lower lower-mid brow in comics. I&#039;m not a big follower of his work, I do think he&#039;s a credit to the industry.
I always thought he  was superb inker. He&#039;s inked some of the best artwork I&#039;ve ever seen in a comic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. Jim is probably a quality creator but as we know there&#8217;s often inverse relationship between what is perceived as quality  and  by what a vast majority of consumers actually buy. Too many times industry awards are given to comics that very few people bought, with rare exceptions. A lot of things I like or liked will be disliked by you all and vice versa. So really, the issue of quality is subjective.  Quality is subjective to sensibilities. I think a lot of sensibilities tend to correlate to  demographics. When someone started reading comics really determines what they gravitate towards. There are lots of  people who are fans of comics from the 1970s  or the 80s  and think comics from those decades are vastly superior to those from now. At the same time, they&#8217;re completely unaware of bad work that was produced then. Another way  Demographics  are being  influenced  right now is by social class.  Social class  which tends to influence how someone sees the world and what they value. Of course, fine art is seen as a luxury and is something people with affluence bestow  upon their children. Not surprisingly, it&#8217;s not meant to appeal to those who aren&#8217;t affluent or  liberal arts educated. If I were to use the current metric of quality used by some regular posters on the Beat here, the  only real comics that are produced right now would be coming from  Fantagraphics and the Comics Journal , which I will say are biased towards crude looking comics or comics books over-intellectualized. They tend to suck any fun out comics for the sake of being deep and philosophical&#8230;.and failing miserably at being really deep or philosophical most of the time.  Picasso is overrated. How accurately can  the quality of his work be assessed when his work appeals to very few people?  Because a bunch of billionaires like his work means his work forfills the promises of great art? Liking Picasso isn&#8217;t a sign of intelligence yet people keep thinking it is and in addition to that &#8220;appreciating&#8221; Picasso somehow makes them cultured. Picasso&#8217;s appeal is in short, snob appeal. It&#8217;s about trying to appear to be of a higher social status by having a rich man&#8217;s tastes. </p>
<p>The thing I always liked about comics is that this high-brow elitist mentality wasn&#8217;t ingrained in it.<br />
Not all good writing has to be literary.  All the artwork doesn&#8217;t need to fit in with what&#8217;s going on in the Contemporary Art scene.  </p>
<p>I like Daniel Clowes and I like  Todd McFarlene. Comics as  medium shouldn&#8217;t equal Jim Lee or Daniel Clowes  exclusively.Depending on who you are or where you come from, one is acceptable one the other cringe-inducing. I don&#8217;t know if liking Jim Lee&#8217;s work  is an issue of &#8220;low quality&#8221; standards as much different standards. The mainstream is mainstream for a reason. It appeals to the widest variety of people. Non-mainstream stuff will not.<br />
I think there&#8217;s a serious question as to whether superheroes are the genre that appeals to the widest cross-section of people but other than that, should it be disliked simply because it&#8217;s popular?</p>
<p>Jim treads a  mid to lower lower-mid brow in comics. I&#8217;m not a big follower of his work, I do think he&#8217;s a credit to the industry.<br />
I always thought he  was superb inker. He&#8217;s inked some of the best artwork I&#8217;ve ever seen in a comic.</p>
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