Comments on: Official: Comic-Con jumps the shark http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:10:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Watch Gossip Girl http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44019 Watch Gossip Girl Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:18 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44019 I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the nice work Look forward to reading more from you in the future. I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the nice work Look forward to reading more from you in the future.

]]> By: daz http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44018 daz Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:11:42 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44018 ohh...paris fuck with me pleaseee ohh…paris fuck with me pleaseee

]]> By: ~chris http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44017 ~chris Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:01:02 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44017 I talked to Lea Hernandez, bought a Scott Pilgrm <i>colour</i> :) comic and two Scott Pilgrim t-shirts, and never saw Paris "Phasmatodea" Hilton. In short, I had a great time! I talked to Lea Hernandez, bought a Scott Pilgrm colour :) comic and two Scott Pilgrim t-shirts, and never saw Paris “Phasmatodea” Hilton. In short, I had a great time!

]]> By: Cary Coatney http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44016 Cary Coatney Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:38:06 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44016 Dave - As a San Diegan, you should remember that there has been a number of tv shows filmed and produced in San Diego. Simon & Simon Renegade The Invisible Man & Night Man ...to name a few. Celebrities have been amongst you for a very long time... ~ Coat Dave -

As a San Diegan, you should remember that there has been a number of tv shows filmed and produced in San Diego.

Simon & Simon
Renegade
The Invisible Man
& Night Man

…to name a few.

Celebrities have been amongst you for a very long time…

~

Coat

]]> By: rich http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44015 rich Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:35:53 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44015 Michael: "the sudden appearance of vacuous, toffee-nosed twits whose only difference from the former is that it’s hip to hate them doesn’t exactly constitute a radical paradigm shift." So, you're in favor of MORE porn stars at comics shows??? Michael: “the sudden appearance of vacuous, toffee-nosed twits whose only difference from the former is that it’s hip to hate them doesn’t exactly constitute a radical paradigm shift.”

So, you’re in favor of MORE porn stars at comics shows???

]]> By: Mark Warbler http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44014 Mark Warbler Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:58:23 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44014 After an hour in line I finally got into the DC party only to have Sam Jackson and Paris Hilton breeze through the velvet rope! I get up there and it's full of agents actors, a kid from gossip girl and even one of the comic editors I'd met earlier (dark horse, ddp?) - i'm gay, I know this stuff. And Terry Tate - What? If I didn't secretly kind off love it, I wouldn't go back in '09. After an hour in line I finally got into the DC party only to have Sam Jackson and Paris Hilton breeze through the velvet rope! I get up there and it’s full of agents actors, a kid from gossip girl and even one of the comic editors I’d met earlier (dark horse, ddp?) – i’m gay, I know this stuff. And Terry Tate – What?

If I didn’t secretly kind off love it, I wouldn’t go back in ‘09.

]]> By: Robert Etherton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44013 Robert Etherton Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:25:56 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44013 Years ago, when I thought about the places I wanted to go to before I died, the SDCC was at the top of my list. Now, I wouldn't be caught dead there. Why? The arrogant, stuffy Hollywood elite have hijacked the event. I'm a lifelong comics fan who has no desire for the "bells & whistles" to intice me to attend. Give me a good ole COMIC BOOK convention any day, and I'll leave the Hollyweird happenings to those who are celebrity-starved. Years ago, when I thought about the places I wanted to go to before I died, the SDCC was at the top of my list. Now, I wouldn’t be caught dead there. Why? The arrogant, stuffy Hollywood elite have hijacked the event. I’m a lifelong comics fan who has no desire for the “bells & whistles” to intice me to attend. Give me a good ole COMIC BOOK convention any day, and I’ll leave the Hollyweird happenings to those who are celebrity-starved.

]]> By: Rob (ShutUpRob) http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44012 Rob (ShutUpRob) Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:51:09 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44012 <i>Perhaps “respect” is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like. … Let me amend that: “Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it.” See…that’s the thing. At the con, mainstream isn’t coming to comics…they’re coming to a place that comic book fans are gathered with non-comics material. Mainstream isn’t coming to comics at the San Diego Comic Con; they’re looking to supplant comics at the San Diego Comic Con. </i> This is exactly why French Capital Hotel and That Kardashian Bimbo aren't welcome at Comic-Con. We know that mainstream Holllyweird is trying to co-opt comics and SF/F geeks, but they're going to lose because we actively reject the stuff from the mainstream that they're trying to shove down our throats. It's up to them to police pondscum like French Capital Hotel; if they aren't going to do it, we're going to openly mock them for perpetuating crap that even we won't touch. We're probably the most tolerant subculture in the Western World, but even we have standards. Tabloid crap fails to meet even our slacker-by-definition minimum/minimal standards. IOW, if you've ever had a reality show on E! (much less one that Joel McHale openly mocks on The Soup), then you don't belong at Comic-Con, period. And your studio should be slapped silly(er) for even trying to bring you here. -- Rob Perhaps “respect” is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like.

…

Let me amend that: “Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it.”

See…that’s the thing. At the con, mainstream isn’t coming to comics…they’re coming to a place that comic book fans are gathered with non-comics material.

Mainstream isn’t coming to comics at the San Diego Comic Con; they’re looking to supplant comics at the San Diego Comic Con.

This is exactly why French Capital Hotel and That Kardashian Bimbo aren’t welcome at Comic-Con. We know that mainstream Holllyweird is trying to co-opt comics and SF/F geeks, but they’re going to lose because we actively reject the stuff from the mainstream that they’re trying to shove down our throats. It’s up to them to police pondscum like French Capital Hotel; if they aren’t going to do it, we’re going to openly mock them for perpetuating crap that even we won’t touch. We’re probably the most tolerant subculture in the Western World, but even we have standards. Tabloid crap fails to meet even our slacker-by-definition minimum/minimal standards.

IOW, if you’ve ever had a reality show on E! (much less one that Joel McHale openly mocks on The Soup), then you don’t belong at Comic-Con, period. And your studio should be slapped silly(er) for even trying to bring you here.

— Rob

]]> By: JWH http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44011 JWH Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:14:42 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44011 <i>Perhaps “respect” is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like.</i> ... <i>Let me amend that: “Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it.” </i> See...that's the thing. At the con, mainstream isn't coming to comics...they're coming to a place that comic book fans are gathered with non-comics material. Mainstream isn't coming to comics at the San Diego Comic Con; they're looking to supplant comics at the San Diego Comic Con. Perhaps “respect” is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like.

…

Let me amend that: “Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it.”

See…that’s the thing. At the con, mainstream isn’t coming to comics…they’re coming to a place that comic book fans are gathered with non-comics material.

Mainstream isn’t coming to comics at the San Diego Comic Con; they’re looking to supplant comics at the San Diego Comic Con.

]]> By: Michael http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44010 Michael Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:38:11 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44010 Let me amend that: "Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it." Let me amend that: “Comics never wanted to join mainstream culture; it wanted to supplant it.”

]]> By: Michael http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44009 Michael Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:32:31 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44009 Perhaps "respect" is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like. If comics joins the mainstream (and it long since has, just not in a way that gives people who were outcasts in high school something to gloat over their ex-peers about, as so many of them expected it would), then it is going to mingle with the whole thing. Which, of course, lends further credence to my theory that they never really wanted mainstream acceptance in the first place, just artistic bragging rights. And quite frankly, the hyperbole seen here is ridiculous. Given how long porn stars have been a fixture at comic book conventions, the sudden appearance of vacuous, toffee-nosed twits whose only difference from the former is that it's hip to hate them doesn't exactly constitute a radical paradigm shift. Whatever "geek honor" Comic-Con may have had (a dubious concept in and of itself) has long since been compromised, and it very likely only existed in the minds of people who take the whole thing too seriously anyway. Fandom is the greatest of all granfalloons, and anything that pops a whole in its over-inflated self-importance is welcome, as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps “respect” is not quite the word, but this is an expected consequence of comics becoming more mainstream. The mainstream, after all, contains a wide swath of pop culture, including elements you may not like. If comics joins the mainstream (and it long since has, just not in a way that gives people who were outcasts in high school something to gloat over their ex-peers about, as so many of them expected it would), then it is going to mingle with the whole thing. Which, of course, lends further credence to my theory that they never really wanted mainstream acceptance in the first place, just artistic bragging rights.

And quite frankly, the hyperbole seen here is ridiculous. Given how long porn stars have been a fixture at comic book conventions, the sudden appearance of vacuous, toffee-nosed twits whose only difference from the former is that it’s hip to hate them doesn’t exactly constitute a radical paradigm shift. Whatever “geek honor” Comic-Con may have had (a dubious concept in and of itself) has long since been compromised, and it very likely only existed in the minds of people who take the whole thing too seriously anyway. Fandom is the greatest of all granfalloons, and anything that pops a whole in its over-inflated self-importance is welcome, as far as I’m concerned.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44008 Kevin Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:06:28 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44008 “Its like you guys want this to be respected” I've often argued that if comics, or indeed any media, wants to be respected, then Paris Hilton's involvement must be courted. I can't wait to see her at Book Expo America! “Its like you guys want this to be respected”

I’ve often argued that if comics, or indeed any media, wants to be respected, then Paris Hilton’s involvement must be courted.

I can’t wait to see her at Book Expo America!

]]> By: Unpopular http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44007 Unpopular Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:12:50 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44007 "And I love having the celebrities here." How so very sad.... "Its like you guys want this to be respected" What makes you think having Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian will bring comics and/or Comic-Con any respect? I think people should respect comics creators for the talented individuals that they are, and having our respected comics creators sharing the same room with Paris and her ilk is a disservice to said comics creators and their talent... because at least they have talent. "I just got home from sitting in a 45 minute line to meet Kim and she was beautiful and very nice" How so very VERY sad... "This thing is now a pop culture convention you guys are going to have to go somewhere else." I know. See previous posts. NYCC and HEROES CON!! "I mean 5 years ago when I went there were more half naked girls walking around as the models of the comics you guys love. So now instead of some girl getting paid $400 a day to parade around in your fantasy costumes. Now a girl is getting $5000 to sit and be herself. Whats the difference to you." There's no difference. Those are both equally shameful things to have at a comic book convention. At least the models had talent though. Paris Hilton isn't worth $5000. At most, she's worth a free crotch shot on the internet. Oh wait, paid in full... “And I love having the celebrities here.”

How so very sad….

“Its like you guys want this to be respected”

What makes you think having Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian will bring comics and/or Comic-Con any respect? I think people should respect comics creators for the talented individuals that they are, and having our respected comics creators sharing the same room with Paris and her ilk is a disservice to said comics creators and their talent… because at least they have talent.

“I just got home from sitting in a 45 minute line to meet Kim and she was beautiful and very nice”

How so very VERY sad…

“This thing is now a pop culture convention you guys are going to have to go somewhere else.”

I know. See previous posts. NYCC and HEROES CON!!

“I mean 5 years ago when I went there were more half naked girls walking around as the models of the comics you guys love. So now instead of some girl getting paid $400 a day to parade around in your fantasy costumes. Now a girl is getting $5000 to sit and be herself. Whats the difference to you.”

There’s no difference. Those are both equally shameful things to have at a comic book convention. At least the models had talent though. Paris Hilton isn’t worth $5000. At most, she’s worth a free crotch shot on the internet. Oh wait, paid in full…

]]> By: dave http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44006 dave Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:35:11 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44006 Quit your whining. As a San Diegan I love this thing coming to town. And I love having the celebrities here. Its like you guys want this to be respected but you dont want anybody outside of yourselves to come. I just got home from sitting in a 45 minute line to meet Kim and she was beautiful and very nice. This thing is now a pop culture convention you guys are going to have to go somewhere else. I mean 5 years ago when I went there were more half naked girls walking around as the models of the comics you guys love. So now instead of some girl getting paid $400 a day to parade around in your fantasy costumes. Now a girl is getting $5000 to sit and be herself. Whats the difference to you. Quit your whining. As a San Diegan I love this thing coming to town. And I love having the celebrities here. Its like you guys want this to be respected but you dont want anybody outside of yourselves to come. I just got home from sitting in a 45 minute line to meet Kim and she was beautiful and very nice. This thing is now a pop culture convention you guys are going to have to go somewhere else. I mean 5 years ago when I went there were more half naked girls walking around as the models of the comics you guys love. So now instead of some girl getting paid $400 a day to parade around in your fantasy costumes. Now a girl is getting $5000 to sit and be herself. Whats the difference to you.

]]> By: Unpopular http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44005 Unpopular Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:17:41 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/07/24/official-comic-con-jumps-the-shark/#comment-44005 "Too bad they don’t seem to have Anthony Stewart Head for this event, he looked pretty good in the previews" EXACTLY!!!! That's why we're bitching about little miss trust fund being there! We don't want her; we want GILES! It's supposed to be about people who contribute to geekdom. It's not about faux celebs who have their daddies buy them into every media circus event which turns them into actual celebs because if they're always where all the "cool" people are then they MUST ALSO BE COOL and therefor end up in films in which a wax house has better acting skills than they could muster. There is absolutely no reason to want to be around these people. We know it, and the sooner the rest of the world figures it out the better. “Too bad they don’t seem to have Anthony Stewart Head for this event, he looked pretty good in the previews”

EXACTLY!!!! That’s why we’re bitching about little miss trust fund being there! We don’t want her; we want GILES! It’s supposed to be about people who contribute to geekdom. It’s not about faux celebs who have their daddies buy them into every media circus event which turns them into actual celebs because if they’re always where all the “cool” people are then they MUST ALSO BE COOL and therefor end up in films in which a wax house has better acting skills than they could muster.

There is absolutely no reason to want to be around these people. We know it, and the sooner the rest of the world figures it out the better.

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