Comments on: Make the girls of THE SPIRIT sigh http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:34:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: rich http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41601 rich Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:06:59 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41601 If the studio's marketing people say, "SIN CITY sells, so give us more SIN CITY," I suppose that's their reasoning for WHAT MIGHT BE a terrible film. Will Eisner depicted sultry women in his comic strip ... not porn stars. Veronica Lake gets supplanted by Jenna Jameson. Yeah, I know that Lake is dead ... so get a modern star to portray a Lake-type character. Although, it would be easy to capture the spirit of THE SPIRIT ... make it one-part SIN CITY, one-part NAKED CITY (the classic crime tv series). You can have something that's edgy, but with the style of the RKO-1940s era. And, if the argument is that "old stuff" doesn't sell, what's the point of making a movie? If the studio’s marketing people say, “SIN CITY sells, so give us more SIN CITY,” I suppose that’s their reasoning for WHAT MIGHT BE a terrible film.

Will Eisner depicted sultry women in his comic strip … not porn stars. Veronica Lake gets supplanted by Jenna Jameson. Yeah, I know that Lake is dead … so get a modern star to portray a Lake-type character.

Although, it would be easy to capture the spirit of THE SPIRIT … make it one-part SIN CITY, one-part NAKED CITY (the classic crime tv series). You can have something that’s edgy, but with the style of the RKO-1940s era.

And, if the argument is that “old stuff” doesn’t sell, what’s the point of making a movie?

]]> By: Lis Riba http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41600 Lis Riba Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:03:52 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41600 FWIW, when the first trailer for Miller's Spirit came out, my husband pointed out how the <a href="http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/journal/2008_04_27_j_archive.htm#7549255449862870829" rel="nofollow">narration strongly resembles Tick #1</a>. I did read the last thread's comments about waiting for the film before passing judgment, but the fact that everything the studio has shown soo far more closely matches Miller's style than Eisner's gives a strong sense for what we can expect. FWIW, when the first trailer for Miller’s Spirit came out, my husband pointed out how the narration strongly resembles Tick #1.

I did read the last thread’s comments about waiting for the film before passing judgment, but the fact that everything the studio has shown soo far more closely matches Miller’s style than Eisner’s gives a strong sense for what we can expect.

]]> By: Cary Coatney http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41599 Cary Coatney Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:12:30 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41599 Tori didn't get the joke. *sigh* ~ Coat Tori didn’t get the joke.

*sigh*

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Coat

]]> By: Brian Davison http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41598 Brian Davison Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:54:12 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41598 As a matter of political correctness, Frank Miller's women should not be referred to as whores. They're the celibacy-challenged. As a matter of political correctness, Frank Miller’s women should not be referred to as whores. They’re the celibacy-challenged.

]]> By: gene phillips http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41597 gene phillips Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:09:01 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41597 There are a fair quantity of women in the SIN CITY movie who aren't whores. It's just that the work as a whole is whatchacall, "whore-friendly." There are a fair quantity of women in the SIN CITY movie who aren’t whores.

It’s just that the work as a whole is whatchacall, “whore-friendly.”

]]> By: snoid http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41596 snoid Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:11:31 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41596 Gene, that's cool. I just take issue with the argument that someone can't make a judgement about a new work by Miller based on his past work. I thought both those movies were bad, bad, bad. One of my thoughts when watching SIN CITY was "is every women in Frank Millers world a whore?' seems to me based on these posters that would be a big YES. Gene, that’s cool. I just take issue with the argument that someone can’t make a judgement about a new work by Miller based on his past work. I thought both those movies were bad, bad, bad. One of my thoughts when watching SIN CITY was “is every women in Frank Millers world a whore?’ seems to me based on these posters that would be a big YES.

]]> By: gene phillips http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41595 gene phillips Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:01:00 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41595 Two reasons for you is one for me. I liked SIN CITY pretty well, 300 not much. That said, I'd rather have another SIN CITY comic than a SPIRIT movie from Frank. Two reasons for you is one for me.

I liked SIN CITY pretty well, 300 not much.

That said, I’d rather have another SIN CITY comic than a SPIRIT movie from Frank.

]]> By: snoid http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41594 snoid Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:46:49 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41594 "There’s no reason to believe that Frank Miller would do a poor job." There's two very good reasons...SIN CITY and 300. “There’s no reason to believe that Frank Miller would do a poor job.”

There’s two very good reasons…SIN CITY and 300.

]]> By: Chuck Fiala http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41593 Chuck Fiala Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:32:58 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41593 Well, the whispering women ad sure is different! I'm anxious to see the film. There's no reason to believe that Frank Miller would do a poor job. Well, the whispering women ad sure is different! I’m anxious to see the film. There’s no reason to believe that Frank Miller would do a poor job.

]]> By: Tori http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41592 Tori Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:28:34 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41592 Nana Visitor's not in it, alas, otherwise I totally would have to buy a ticket. Nana Visitor’s not in it, alas, otherwise I totally would have to buy a ticket.

]]> By: Cary Coatney http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41591 Cary Coatney Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:20:00 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41591 Where's the Nana Visitor poster? ~ Coat Where’s the Nana Visitor poster?

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Coat

]]> By: AERose http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41590 AERose Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:16:59 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41590 So let me get this straight: Denny Colt as Rorschach jumping from roof to roof in a Frank Miller-stylized Central City (that's the impression I got from the trailer, at least) and occasionally fighting/having sex with a bevy of hot actresses. Also: Samuel L. Jackson. I think I would question my own sanity if I didn't want to see this. (Aside from that, agreed with everything Peter David says, probably ever. I mean, I'm not entirely sure I agree with him on everything but I'm like, 99% sure.) So let me get this straight:

Denny Colt as Rorschach jumping from roof to roof in a Frank Miller-stylized Central City (that’s the impression I got from the trailer, at least) and occasionally fighting/having sex with a bevy of hot actresses. Also: Samuel L. Jackson.

I think I would question my own sanity if I didn’t want to see this.

(Aside from that, agreed with everything Peter David says, probably ever. I mean, I’m not entirely sure I agree with him on everything but I’m like, 99% sure.)

]]> By: Steve Taylor http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41589 Steve Taylor Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:29:40 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41589 The posters are embarrasingly bad. The posters are embarrasingly bad.

]]> By: Rob S. http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41588 Rob S. Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:11:59 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41588 Y'know... even if the Spirit movie is hilariously awful, I can't believe it will give <I>Modesty Blaise</I> a run for its money. But if it does... it'll be the Best Bad Comics Movie of All Time. And that's something to shoot for, too. (Though given the talent involved, I'm still hoping for "good.") Y’know… even if the Spirit movie is hilariously awful, I can’t believe it will give Modesty Blaise a run for its money. But if it does… it’ll be the Best Bad Comics Movie of All Time.

And that’s something to shoot for, too.

(Though given the talent involved, I’m still hoping for “good.”)

]]> By: Jesse Post http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41587 Jesse Post Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:42:19 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/25/make-the-girls-of-the-spirit-sigh/#comment-41587 Back on the subject of that interesting conversation Peter notes above, I just wanted to add that I think it's unfair to impugn Frank Miller's integrity in any way simply because one disagrees with his interpretation of the comic. There's no evidence that he's selling out to make a buck or appealing to the lowest common denominator with his movie. It's entirely possible that his movie captures whatever he sees as the true essence of the characters. I also feel that the pulp fiction-esque sultriness of the movie posters really isn't that far off from the sultriness Eisner himself put in the original strips. At least they're not so far off that you would be justified in saying Frank Miller is disrespecting the source material. Back on the subject of that interesting conversation Peter notes above, I just wanted to add that I think it’s unfair to impugn Frank Miller’s integrity in any way simply because one disagrees with his interpretation of the comic. There’s no evidence that he’s selling out to make a buck or appealing to the lowest common denominator with his movie. It’s entirely possible that his movie captures whatever he sees as the true essence of the characters.

I also feel that the pulp fiction-esque sultriness of the movie posters really isn’t that far off from the sultriness Eisner himself put in the original strips. At least they’re not so far off that you would be justified in saying Frank Miller is disrespecting the source material.

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