Comments on: Tokyopop updates http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:22:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment » King City to return http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40881 Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources - Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment » King City to return Wed, 06 May 2009 16:22:11 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40881 [...] This is great news — Brandon Graham’s King City, which was caught up in the Tokyopop implosion last year, is returning to print in August. [...] [...] This is great news — Brandon Graham’s King City, which was caught up in the Tokyopop implosion last year, is returning to print in August. [...]

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40880 Steve Horton Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:32:10 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40880 Hi Chris, It seems that OEL really requires an in-store advocate (or a creator that lives nearby to do frequent signings) to really push the material. Also, OEL seems to be doing much better as graphic novels in bookstores than through the direct market. Hi Chris,
It seems that OEL really requires an in-store advocate (or a creator that lives nearby to do frequent signings) to really push the material. Also, OEL seems to be doing much better as graphic novels in bookstores than through the direct market.

]]> By: Chris Midweeker http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40879 Chris Midweeker Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:19:26 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40879 Hi Steve, I find it really interesting that Red String is that popular, 'cos we just couldn't sell it at all. The store I worked in had very decent Manga sales, but OEL just didn't sell very well at all for us. Megatokyo did okay (maybe 5-6 copies of each a year), but the Tokyopop stuff hardly at all. Mail Order Ninja, Dramacon, Peach Fuzz & I Luv Halloween ticked over, but Steady Beat, RE:Play, East Coast Rising and most of the others rarely sold, even when we were shifting 20-30 copies of Demo a year. Hi Steve,
I find it really interesting that Red String is that popular, ‘cos we just couldn’t sell it at all. The store I worked in had very decent Manga sales, but OEL just didn’t sell very well at all for us. Megatokyo did okay (maybe 5-6 copies of each a year), but the Tokyopop stuff hardly at all. Mail Order Ninja, Dramacon, Peach Fuzz & I Luv Halloween ticked over, but Steady Beat, RE:Play, East Coast Rising and most of the others rarely sold, even when we were shifting 20-30 copies of Demo a year.

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40878 Steve Horton Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:53:06 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40878 Joe, my point wasn't which comics people choose to scanlate and read, my point was that the fact that it is being done means that there really are no barriers between a younger audience and reading long-form comics online rather than in a print book. Many people are comfortable reading long material on a screen. Joe, my point wasn’t which comics people choose to scanlate and read, my point was that the fact that it is being done means that there really are no barriers between a younger audience and reading long-form comics online rather than in a print book. Many people are comfortable reading long material on a screen.

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40877 Steve Horton Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:49:23 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40877 That didn't work either. Try this: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Manga-Digital-Storytelling-Studio/dp/0240810287" rel="nofollow">Click Here</a> That didn’t work either. Try this:

Click Here

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40876 Steve Horton Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:47:34 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40876 Argh! <a>Try this link.</a> Argh!
Try this link.

]]> By: MangaBlog » Blog Archive » Tokyopop repositions global manga http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40875 MangaBlog » Blog Archive » Tokyopop repositions global manga Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:39:53 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40875 [...] Edit: Heidi posted Rivkah’s comments at The Beat, and as always, her comment thread is well worth a look. [...] [...] Edit: Heidi posted Rivkah’s comments at The Beat, and as always, her comment thread is well worth a look. [...]

]]> By: Joe Williams http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40874 Joe Williams Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:29:34 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40874 Steve, about that long-form on the comics thing: Don't you think people reading scanlations and pirated material only do so because they are already interested in the material and either cannot get it in print such as with untranslated manga or with pirated Big 2 stuff are fanboys who are maxed out on current purchases who just want to check up on the titles they can't afford so they can "peek in" just to see if something is happening that may affect the continuity in the books they are buying or to follow crossovers without paying the extra money? That's what I suspect but don't have any empirical evidence (well, I've read a few board comments that suggest pirated Big 2 comics are done to follow crossovers on books fans don't want to buy), but if my suspicion is true then I think those are special cases and may not necessarily point the way to future successes for those wishing to make their own long-form comics successful on the web since much of the desire to read those is based on have an existing and successful property in high demand, something which individual creators can't exactly replicate. Steve, about that long-form on the comics thing: Don’t you think people reading scanlations and pirated material only do so because they are already interested in the material and either cannot get it in print such as with untranslated manga or with pirated Big 2 stuff are fanboys who are maxed out on current purchases who just want to check up on the titles they can’t afford so they can “peek in” just to see if something is happening that may affect the continuity in the books they are buying or to follow crossovers without paying the extra money? That’s what I suspect but don’t have any empirical evidence (well, I’ve read a few board comments that suggest pirated Big 2 comics are done to follow crossovers on books fans don’t want to buy), but if my suspicion is true then I think those are special cases and may not necessarily point the way to future successes for those wishing to make their own long-form comics successful on the web since much of the desire to read those is based on have an existing and successful property in high demand, something which individual creators can’t exactly replicate.

]]> By: Xenos http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40873 Xenos Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:20:38 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40873 MegaTokyo?! Bah! That isn't manga! It's just another web comic. He's not not even f---ing Japanese! He's from Wisconsin, you f---s! Um.. sorry. I'm been hitting the Pocky a bit much. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/04/26/ As for other more long form comics, Dan Kim's Paper XI won a Shuster Award. I met him at a con and got a self published book of it. Then there are more comic strip comics like Penny Arcade or Pretty Bible Fellowship that have moved from web to print. I got MacHall self published by the guys who do that comic. MegaTokyo?! Bah! That isn’t manga! It’s just another web comic. He’s not not even f—ing Japanese! He’s from Wisconsin, you f—s! Um.. sorry. I’m been hitting the Pocky a bit much.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/04/26/

As for other more long form comics, Dan Kim’s Paper XI won a Shuster Award. I met him at a con and got a self published book of it. Then there are more comic strip comics like Penny Arcade or Pretty Bible Fellowship that have moved from web to print. I got MacHall self published by the guys who do that comic.

]]> By: Strannik http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40872 Strannik Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:17:04 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40872 According to Christy Lijewski, her OEL series Re:Play won't be affected by the purge See here: http://nyanko-chan.deviantart.com/journal/18836779/ According to Christy Lijewski, her OEL series Re:Play won’t be affected by the purge

See here: http://nyanko-chan.deviantart.com/journal/18836779/

]]> By: Lea Hernandez http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40871 Lea Hernandez Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:46:28 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40871 Steve, URL is borked. Steve, URL is borked.

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40870 Steve Horton Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:13:12 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40870 So a few volume 3s will be trickling out after all (which prompts the question: if they're all selling equally bad, why pick and choose a few volume 3s and not others? They're generating tremendous bad will by (what seems to be) arbitrarily choosing some to cancel, some to Web and some to publish. Better to either print volume 3s for everyone under contract or put everyone online. And it also means that nobody new will be getting original books, except for the rare creator that makes it through several Pilot Programs first. My good friend Jeong Mo Yang is positioned well at the moment with TP. He's drawing a licensed book, the extraordinarily successful Hellgate: London videogame prequel. (He also illustrated my how-to book.) I predict good things for him in the industry. Not to be crass - but I've mentioned it enough times that I might as well post a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Manga-Digital-Storytelling-Studio/" rel="nofollow">link </a> to my book. A lot of useful info about securing an agent, breaking into the book market, submitting to Image, and using Manga Studio. Definitely a good pickup for TokyoPop refugees. So a few volume 3s will be trickling out after all (which prompts the question: if they’re all selling equally bad, why pick and choose a few volume 3s and not others? They’re generating tremendous bad will by (what seems to be) arbitrarily choosing some to cancel, some to Web and some to publish. Better to either print volume 3s for everyone under contract or put everyone online.

And it also means that nobody new will be getting original books, except for the rare creator that makes it through several Pilot Programs first.

My good friend Jeong Mo Yang is positioned well at the moment with TP. He’s drawing a licensed book, the extraordinarily successful Hellgate: London videogame prequel. (He also illustrated my how-to book.) I predict good things for him in the industry.

Not to be crass – but I’ve mentioned it enough times that I might as well post a link to my book. A lot of useful info about securing an agent, breaking into the book market, submitting to Image, and using Manga Studio. Definitely a good pickup for TokyoPop refugees.

]]> By: Steve Horton http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40869 Steve Horton Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:04:02 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40869 The biggest other than Megatokyo is probably Red String, an extraordinarily popular shoujo manga webcomic that's now on volume 2 with Dark Horse in print as well. There are several others. The Drunk Duck site's fans are extremely receptive to manga, and several independent manga webcomics have done very well as PDF collections on Wowio. I've done a lot of thought and research and writing about long-form comics on the Web, and I have to conclude that rampant scanlation (and piracy) proves that there is a huge audience that can and will be patient enough to read long-form comics on a computer screen. Mostly manga fans, but there are several traditional long-formers that are doing very well right now. Two of my favorites that are seeing explosive success are Octopus Pie (http://www.octopuspie.com) and Anders Loves Maria (http://anderslovesmaria.reneengstrom.com) The biggest other than Megatokyo is probably Red String, an extraordinarily popular shoujo manga webcomic that’s now on volume 2 with Dark Horse in print as well.

There are several others. The Drunk Duck site’s fans are extremely receptive to manga, and several independent manga webcomics have done very well as PDF collections on Wowio.

I’ve done a lot of thought and research and writing about long-form comics on the Web, and I have to conclude that rampant scanlation (and piracy) proves that there is a huge audience that can and will be patient enough to read long-form comics on a computer screen. Mostly manga fans, but there are several traditional long-formers that are doing very well right now.

Two of my favorites that are seeing explosive success are Octopus Pie (http://www.octopuspie.com) and Anders Loves Maria (http://anderslovesmaria.reneengstrom.com)

]]> By: Rococo Flow http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40868 Rococo Flow Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:53:36 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40868 @Torsten Adair: Don't know of any notable ones that someone's actually doing as a full time gig. Any manga I've ever seen or read have usually been personal endeavors and in other cases they've also self-published it. Examples: http://www.underlock-and-key.com/comic.html and http://www.pie-ix.com/ (Can't remember if it was online before being published though) and http://www.destiny-makers.net/fg_pgs.html I'm sure there's probably more, but that's all I could think of right now. @Torsten Adair: Don’t know of any notable ones that someone’s actually doing as a full time gig. Any manga I’ve ever seen or read have usually been personal endeavors and in other cases they’ve also self-published it.

Examples: http://www.underlock-and-key.com/comic.html and http://www.pie-ix.com/ (Can’t remember if it was online before being published though) and http://www.destiny-makers.net/fg_pgs.html

I’m sure there’s probably more, but that’s all I could think of right now.

]]> By: Torsten Adair http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40867 Torsten Adair Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:43:55 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/06/13/tokyopop-updates/#comment-40867 I don't read many comics on the web, as I barely have time to read paper comics. Is anyone putting manga comics on the web? I don’t read many comics on the web, as I barely have time to read paper comics. Is anyone putting manga comics on the web?

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