Comments on: SPOILERS!!!! SPOILERS WE SAID!!!! DC edition http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:13:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Did the Flash Save Comics? | K-Squared Ramblings http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-44581 Did the Flash Save Comics? | K-Squared Ramblings Thu, 06 May 2010 17:59:26 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-44581 [...] The comment thread at The Beat also has some interesting speculation on comics without the Silver Age [...] [...] The comment thread at The Beat also has some interesting speculation on comics without the Silver Age [...]

]]> By: Welcome Back, Barry Allen! « Speed Force http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38330 Welcome Back, Barry Allen! « Speed Force Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:27:51 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38330 [...] With Barry’s return confirmed in subsequent interviews, it was only a matter of figuring out when he would appear on-panel. When the “next issue” blurb for Final Crisis #2 showed that Flash painting and mentioned “the return of a long lost hero,” the answer was clear. [...] [...] With Barry’s return confirmed in subsequent interviews, it was only a matter of figuring out when he would appear on-panel. When the “next issue” blurb for Final Crisis #2 showed that Flash painting and mentioned “the return of a long lost hero,” the answer was clear. [...]

]]> By: SESE http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38329 SESE Fri, 02 May 2008 20:44:54 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38329 Shouldn't Gail Simone be credited for the WW segment? Shouldn’t Gail Simone be credited for the WW segment?

]]> By: Did the Flash Save Comics? | K-Squared Ramblings http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38328 Did the Flash Save Comics? | K-Squared Ramblings Fri, 02 May 2008 06:52:42 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38328 [...] Edit: The comment thread at The Beat also has some interesting speculation on comics without the Silver Age Flash. [...] [...] Edit: The comment thread at The Beat also has some interesting speculation on comics without the Silver Age Flash. [...]

]]> By: Steve Taylor http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38327 Steve Taylor Fri, 02 May 2008 03:34:04 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38327 I'm with Ken,...I read that comic and it didn't make no sense. Like Chris,...I thought it was about Captain Marvel too. Possibly. It seemed like a William Burroughs pastiche. As if pages ripped from previous DC Event comics were pasted randomly together. It's as if each panel were created by a different awesome comics team. I’m with Ken,…I read that comic and it didn’t make no sense. Like Chris,…I thought it was about Captain Marvel too. Possibly.
It seemed like a William Burroughs pastiche. As if pages ripped from previous DC Event comics were pasted randomly together. It’s as if each panel were created by a different awesome comics team.

]]> By: Scott http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38326 Scott Thu, 01 May 2008 15:00:10 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38326 The problem with all of this is that Barry Allen doesn't really appear in DCU #0. There is much to imply his presence but also enough ambiguity to put off the full reveal until presumably some time later in the pages of Final Crisis or mayber Rogues Revenge. But then the news media comes in and pretty much blows all of this build up out of the water. The problem with all of this is that Barry Allen doesn’t really appear in DCU #0. There is much to imply his presence but also enough ambiguity to put off the full reveal until presumably some time later in the pages of Final Crisis or mayber Rogues Revenge. But then the news media comes in and pretty much blows all of this build up out of the water.

]]> By: Ken Raining http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38325 Ken Raining Thu, 01 May 2008 14:32:57 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38325 I was so busy at work yesterday that I actually managed to avoid all the spoilers before I read this. I did know that Barry was due for a comeback, so it wasn't a total shock. That said, the comic really doesn't work until you realize "oh, it's Barry Allen narrating", and then it kind of looses steam. As for the question of what would have happened to comics without superheroes, I've always thought that superheroes became the dominant genre because it's the only one that comics could do better then other mediums. I don't think it's the case any more-- "the Incredibles" is better then 99% of superhero comics, and comics have proven to have strengths that movies, tv, ect. can't match. Still, the course has been set. I was so busy at work yesterday that I actually managed to avoid all the spoilers before I read this. I did know that Barry was due for a comeback, so it wasn’t a total shock. That said, the comic really doesn’t work until you realize “oh, it’s Barry Allen narrating”, and then it kind of looses steam.

As for the question of what would have happened to comics without superheroes, I’ve always thought that superheroes became the dominant genre because it’s the only one that comics could do better then other mediums. I don’t think it’s the case any more– “the Incredibles” is better then 99% of superhero comics, and comics have proven to have strengths that movies, tv, ect. can’t match. Still, the course has been set.

]]> By: Chris Midweeker http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38324 Chris Midweeker Thu, 01 May 2008 10:52:01 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38324 Like Ivan, I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop on Barry for a while. After the returns of Jason Todd and Bucky over at Marvel, it seemed inevitable. However, as with Ken, I didn't immediately click it was Barry until I read the article on Newsarama, it really wasn't as clear as it could have been. Like a doofus, I initially thought it was Shazam related... I'm interested to see where Final Crisis goes from here though. Oh, and Jimmy P, you're doing an awesome job on Jonah Hex, I implore anyone who likes really well done Western comics to check it out. Like Ivan, I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop on Barry for a while. After the returns of Jason Todd and Bucky over at Marvel, it seemed inevitable.
However, as with Ken, I didn’t immediately click it was Barry until I read the article on Newsarama, it really wasn’t as clear as it could have been. Like a doofus, I initially thought it was Shazam related…
I’m interested to see where Final Crisis goes from here though.
Oh, and Jimmy P, you’re doing an awesome job on Jonah Hex, I implore anyone who likes really well done Western comics to check it out.

]]> By: jimmy palmiotti http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38323 jimmy palmiotti Thu, 01 May 2008 05:05:13 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38323 “Without Barry Allen, we’d still be reading comic books about cowboys,” Geoff Johns, co-writer of the new Flash comics, told the Daily News. everyone, please let that comic be JONAH HEX. Jimmy p “Without Barry Allen, we’d still be reading comic books about cowboys,” Geoff Johns, co-writer of the new Flash comics, told the Daily News.

everyone, please let that comic be JONAH HEX.

Jimmy p

]]> By: Mark Coale http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38322 Mark Coale Thu, 01 May 2008 03:01:04 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38322 I guess if Bucky can come back to life, so can Barry Allen. Uncle Ben, you're next. I guess if Bucky can come back to life, so can Barry Allen.

Uncle Ben, you’re next.

]]> By: Sphinx Magoo http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38321 Sphinx Magoo Thu, 01 May 2008 02:16:38 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38321 Is this a paradigm shift we're witnessing? No longer are these massive announcements displayed only in Wizard Magazine... now they're getting announced in EW and the Daily News! As Keanu Reeves would say: "Whoa!" Is this a paradigm shift we’re witnessing? No longer are these massive announcements displayed only in Wizard Magazine… now they’re getting announced in EW and the Daily News!

As Keanu Reeves would say: “Whoa!”

]]> By: Ken http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38320 Ken Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:44:47 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38320 I read DC #0 because I happened to browse into a comic shop today and it was free so i took one, and I was so confused I didn't even see Barry Allan in it, or didn't realize I was seeing him. I also bought a Batman comic because I saw the Ten-Eyed Man was in it. Anyway #0 was a bit of a mess. I didn't understand a single thing I was reading, I have no idea who or what The Black Hand is, I happened to have read Crisis 25 years ago so I knew the Spectre flashback imagery, but that's about all I got. Not clear what was going on with WW, or why the cast of 300 was hanging with her, who the guys talking about the cast of 300 were, why The Legion was with Superman...nothing. I read DC #0 because I happened to browse into a comic shop today and it was free so i took one, and I was so confused I didn’t even see Barry Allan in it, or didn’t realize I was seeing him. I also bought a Batman comic because I saw the Ten-Eyed Man was in it.

Anyway #0 was a bit of a mess. I didn’t understand a single thing I was reading, I have no idea who or what The Black Hand is, I happened to have read Crisis 25 years ago so I knew the Spectre flashback imagery, but that’s about all I got. Not clear what was going on with WW, or why the cast of 300 was hanging with her, who the guys talking about the cast of 300 were, why The Legion was with Superman…nothing.

]]> By: Ivan http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38319 Ivan Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:24:48 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38319 John you bring up a great point. Many common folk who knew of the Flash still think that Barry is Flash and never died. The 1990 tv show and the excellent reference in "Catch Me If You Can" didn't help. I had a feeling that Barry was coming back, after Ollie, Carter, Hal and now Ray. I just wish that J'onn wasn't expiring (spoiler my ass) and Arthur would come back full circle. John you bring up a great point. Many common folk who knew of the Flash still think that Barry is Flash and never died. The 1990 tv show and the excellent reference in “Catch Me If You Can” didn’t help.

I had a feeling that Barry was coming back, after Ollie, Carter, Hal and now Ray. I just wish that J’onn wasn’t expiring (spoiler my ass) and Arthur would come back full circle.

]]> By: thecitydesk http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38318 thecitydesk Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:24:01 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38318 "Now there’s an interesting idea… No Flash, no Justice League, no Fantastic Four, no superhero genre dominating the medium. Without the excitement generated by superhero comics, would fans have entered the profession in the 1960s and 1970s? " Sure. It just all would have been pirate comics. “Now there’s an interesting idea… No Flash, no Justice League, no Fantastic Four, no superhero genre dominating the medium. Without the excitement generated by superhero comics, would fans have entered the profession in the 1960s and 1970s? ”

Sure. It just all would have been pirate comics.

]]> By: John Platt http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38317 John Platt Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:32:40 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/04/30/spoilers-spoilers-we-said-dc-edition/#comment-38317 Barry Allen was dead?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Barry Allen was dead?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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