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	<title>Comments on: Siegels awarded Superman rights</title>
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		<title>By: How Much Money Does Patrick Kane Make</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36644</link>
		<dc:creator>How Much Money Does Patrick Kane Make</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Siegels awarded Superman rights? Seriously? I was searching Google for how much money does patrick kane make and found this... will have to think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Siegels awarded Superman rights? Seriously? I was searching Google for how much money does patrick kane make and found this&#8230; will have to think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: ariani widowati</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36643</link>
		<dc:creator>ariani widowati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Moderator,

I am working on behalf of Hutchison CP Telecommunications Indonesia. a GSM provider under the brand 3 (Three). We would like to seek for approval and license to use the association of Superman into our latest Starterpacks. The name will be SuperTri (SuperThree)  and we plan to use a similar logo of Superman. Where can seek for approval  and who to contact for this license approval ? Pls help to assist .

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Moderator,</p>
<p>I am working on behalf of Hutchison CP Telecommunications Indonesia. a GSM provider under the brand 3 (Three). We would like to seek for approval and license to use the association of Superman into our latest Starterpacks. The name will be SuperTri (SuperThree)  and we plan to use a similar logo of Superman. Where can seek for approval  and who to contact for this license approval ? Pls help to assist .</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Wyatt</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36642</link>
		<dc:creator>Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a joke. There&#039;s not a Siegel or Shuster alive today that had a darn thing to do with Superman, and they don&#039;t deserve a d**n thing. Oh look, more people wanting SOMETHING for NOTHING as it relates to work they never did. If that&#039;s not the American way, I don&#039;t know what is. I hope Warner and DC appeal this baby till the end, and send those freeloading leeches back to wherever they came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke. There&#8217;s not a Siegel or Shuster alive today that had a darn thing to do with Superman, and they don&#8217;t deserve a d**n thing. Oh look, more people wanting SOMETHING for NOTHING as it relates to work they never did. If that&#8217;s not the American way, I don&#8217;t know what is. I hope Warner and DC appeal this baby till the end, and send those freeloading leeches back to wherever they came from.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Spence</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36641</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Lee, Kirby, Ditko, etc should get their due...hopefully while some can still enjoy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Lee, Kirby, Ditko, etc should get their due&#8230;hopefully while some can still enjoy it.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loses Half the Rights To Action Comics #1 at POWET.TV</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36640</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loses Half the Rights To Action Comics #1 at POWET.TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Need more updates? The Beat&#8217;s got some links and quotes for you, and Newsarama&#8217;s Blog@ seems to be updating this post regularly (though I though they&#8217;d be updating with new updates&#8230; It&#8217;s a blog, right guys?). Also, read through the first hundred or so comments - look at people being oh-so-angry at the Siegels for being so gosh durn greedy as to wish compensation greater than the original $130 Jerry Siegel was paid. I mean, split with Joe Shuster. Digg it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Need more updates? The Beat&#8217;s got some links and quotes for you, and Newsarama&#8217;s Blog@ seems to be updating this post regularly (though I though they&#8217;d be updating with new updates&#8230; It&#8217;s a blog, right guys?). Also, read through the first hundred or so comments &#8211; look at people being oh-so-angry at the Siegels for being so gosh durn greedy as to wish compensation greater than the original $130 Jerry Siegel was paid. I mean, split with Joe Shuster. Digg it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DC Loses Half the Rights To Action Comics #1 at POWET.TV</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36639</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Loses Half the Rights To Action Comics #1 at POWET.TV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Need more updates? The Beat&#8217;s got some links and quotes for you, and Newsarama&#8217;s Blog@ seems to be updating this post regularly (though I though they&#8217;d be updating with new updates&#8230; It&#8217;s a blog, right guys?). Also, read through the first hundred or so comments - look at people being oh-so-angry at the Siegels for being so gosh durn greedy as to wish compensation greater than the original $130 Jerry Siegel was paid. I mean, split with Joe Shuster. Digg it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Need more updates? The Beat&#8217;s got some links and quotes for you, and Newsarama&#8217;s Blog@ seems to be updating this post regularly (though I though they&#8217;d be updating with new updates&#8230; It&#8217;s a blog, right guys?). Also, read through the first hundred or so comments &#8211; look at people being oh-so-angry at the Siegels for being so gosh durn greedy as to wish compensation greater than the original $130 Jerry Siegel was paid. I mean, split with Joe Shuster. Digg it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36638</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakarich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why some people are so snide over another individual&#039;s love for  something.  Why mock someone&#039;s concern over what makes them happy?  Please, show some respect to others.

Solid debate and observations I expect here.  Ridiculing others, I do not.

My 2¢</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why some people are so snide over another individual&#8217;s love for  something.  Why mock someone&#8217;s concern over what makes them happy?  Please, show some respect to others.</p>
<p>Solid debate and observations I expect here.  Ridiculing others, I do not.</p>
<p>My 2¢</p>
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		<title>By: SKFK</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36637</link>
		<dc:creator>SKFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disregard what I wrote above about the copyright terms. Brian Cronin at Comics Should Be Good reminded me that any copyright prior to the changes made to the law only gets 20 year extension, so Superman would enter the public domain in 2033 regardless of who owns the copyright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disregard what I wrote above about the copyright terms. Brian Cronin at Comics Should Be Good reminded me that any copyright prior to the changes made to the law only gets 20 year extension, so Superman would enter the public domain in 2033 regardless of who owns the copyright.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Coville</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Coville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:rollseyes:

Don&#039;t worry you &quot;me-first, I&#039;m entitled to entertainment above all else&quot; fans. Your precious, precious Superman comic books aren&#039;t going to change. They will still be there next month, same as always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:rollseyes:</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry you &#8220;me-first, I&#8217;m entitled to entertainment above all else&#8221; fans. Your precious, precious Superman comic books aren&#8217;t going to change. They will still be there next month, same as always.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36635</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is bad of me to worry about the future of one of my favorite characters? I mean the DCU without Superman is not cool with me. His heirs get a big payday and we who have created that payday for them with our support and love of the book are left with Superman comics till 2013, Then the heirs sell him to Marvel and he joins the avengers?

I know this is a great thing for his family, but I can see many scenarios where we loose out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is bad of me to worry about the future of one of my favorite characters? I mean the DCU without Superman is not cool with me. His heirs get a big payday and we who have created that payday for them with our support and love of the book are left with Superman comics till 2013, Then the heirs sell him to Marvel and he joins the avengers?</p>
<p>I know this is a great thing for his family, but I can see many scenarios where we loose out.</p>
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		<title>By: Rakarich</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36634</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakarich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something just occurred to me if there is a big payout to the Seigles don&#039;t be surprised to see DC comics hit a $3.25 cover price.  You know Time Warner isn&#039;t going to take the hit alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something just occurred to me if there is a big payout to the Seigles don&#8217;t be surprised to see DC comics hit a $3.25 cover price.  You know Time Warner isn&#8217;t going to take the hit alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36633</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>f lee

Hey, how&#039;s it going? Glad to meet you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>f lee</p>
<p>Hey, how&#8217;s it going? Glad to meet you.</p>
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		<title>By: SKFK</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36632</link>
		<dc:creator>SKFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I believe the licensing and merchandising arm of DC/Time Warner will take the biggest hit by losing millions of dollars of revenue from Superman products made by hundreds of manufacturers.&quot;

No, things like a single iconic image of Superman, the name &quot;Superman&quot; itself, and the &quot;S&quot; shield logo are covered by the trademark law, not copyright. Even if DC loses the copyright, the trademark is likely to stay with DC.

&quot;What exactly happens in 2013? Does each character go into public domain as its deadline passes?&quot;

No, Shuster&#039;s nephew will get to reclaim the other half of the copyright, so DC will have no ownership stake in the copyright.

What&#039;s ironic is that, in the long term, it may be better for DC to let the Siegels and the Shusters have the Superman copyright. According to the current copyright law, if DC remains the copyright owner, Superman will enter public domain in 2033 (1938 plus 95 years). But if the Siegels and the Shusters reclaim the copyright and they enter into a licensing deal with DC, then DC can continue to use Superman until 2066 (Siegel passed away in 1996, plus 70 years). True, they will have to pay licensing fees to the estates, but that will be a fraction of what they can make during the 30 plus years of extra usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe the licensing and merchandising arm of DC/Time Warner will take the biggest hit by losing millions of dollars of revenue from Superman products made by hundreds of manufacturers.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, things like a single iconic image of Superman, the name &#8220;Superman&#8221; itself, and the &#8220;S&#8221; shield logo are covered by the trademark law, not copyright. Even if DC loses the copyright, the trademark is likely to stay with DC.</p>
<p>&#8220;What exactly happens in 2013? Does each character go into public domain as its deadline passes?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Shuster&#8217;s nephew will get to reclaim the other half of the copyright, so DC will have no ownership stake in the copyright.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s ironic is that, in the long term, it may be better for DC to let the Siegels and the Shusters have the Superman copyright. According to the current copyright law, if DC remains the copyright owner, Superman will enter public domain in 2033 (1938 plus 95 years). But if the Siegels and the Shusters reclaim the copyright and they enter into a licensing deal with DC, then DC can continue to use Superman until 2066 (Siegel passed away in 1996, plus 70 years). True, they will have to pay licensing fees to the estates, but that will be a fraction of what they can make during the 30 plus years of extra usage.</p>
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		<title>By: f lee</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36631</link>
		<dc:creator>f lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do folks like alan coil get to write whatever inflammatory shit they want to?  oh, that&#039;s right, it&#039;s the internet---where any jackass with a keyboard can type something.

i know about as much as alan does about DC&#039;s corporate financing, but this is not going to be the end of anything---no matter how much haters like alan wish it so..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do folks like alan coil get to write whatever inflammatory shit they want to?  oh, that&#8217;s right, it&#8217;s the internet&#8212;where any jackass with a keyboard can type something.</p>
<p>i know about as much as alan does about DC&#8217;s corporate financing, but this is not going to be the end of anything&#8212;no matter how much haters like alan wish it so..</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kardwell</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/03/28/siegels-awarded-superman-rights/#comment-36630</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kardwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have so much more respect for DC and their corporate overlords if, instead of dragging this through every appeal court they can, they sent Paul Levitz and a couple of lawyers to hash out a deal where DC gave ownership back to the Siegel and Shuster estates but leased the character in perpetuity, with the two families receiving fair royalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have so much more respect for DC and their corporate overlords if, instead of dragging this through every appeal court they can, they sent Paul Levitz and a couple of lawyers to hash out a deal where DC gave ownership back to the Siegel and Shuster estates but leased the character in perpetuity, with the two families receiving fair royalties.</p>
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