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		<title>By: Electric Children &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Re: Robin #174</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32014</link>
		<dc:creator>Electric Children &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Re: Robin #174</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 07:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Grant Morrison gives us a Spoiler memorial (with a follow up here) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marionette</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32013</link>
		<dc:creator>Marionette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Tucker, why are wasting your valuable time sneering on a blog?  Don&#039;t you know there are drowning kittens out in the real world that need your help?!?!

What are you, some kind of MoNSTeR that you calmly drone on about the lack of value of made-up people you&#039;re not even interested in when ReaL injustice is happening out in the rEAl world??!?  Shame on you!!  SHaMe!!1!

THink of teh KiTTieS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Tucker, why are wasting your valuable time sneering on a blog?  Don&#8217;t you know there are drowning kittens out in the real world that need your help?!?!</p>
<p>What are you, some kind of MoNSTeR that you calmly drone on about the lack of value of made-up people you&#8217;re not even interested in when ReaL injustice is happening out in the rEAl world??!?  Shame on you!!  SHaMe!!1!</p>
<p>THink of teh KiTTieS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tucker Stone</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32012</link>
		<dc:creator>Tucker Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;.Marionette Says:
02/6/08 at 8:26 am
Thanks for setting us all straight on that, Mike. I’m sure everyone will be delighted to know that they don’t need to care about Steph, or what she represents.

Perhaps you’d also like to tell us what’s an appropriate feminist issue? I mean, you clearly have a much better grasp on the situation than everyone else.&quot;

The Loya Paktia are still settling tribal feuds with the exchange of women.  It&#039;s not going to be as easy as getting a made-up imaginary case in a dream sequence in a made-up imaginary story about made-up imaginary people, but it&#039;s A) totally for reals, and B) totally sexist and C) totally awful.

Problems include:  there isn&#039;t a current attempt by anybody to do anything about it, it&#039;s in Afghanistan, and probably will require more work than going on the internet and writing stuff down.   But the possible success includes far more than bragging rights in blog comments!  See, if one were part of a movement that helped end the exchange of women to settle tribal feuds, then one could actually change and affect the lives of women suffering from all sorts of sexual violation, including rape and a whole litany of horrors.   And here&#039;s the thing--while everytime you torture and murder a Stephanie Brown, an angel gets it&#039;s wings, everytime it actually happens in real life to a real human being, then an angel gets grossed out by your Chesire Cat smile over an imaginary display case.

Still, I certainly think that the first step is a panel in a Grant Morrison comic book.  If New X-Men, Doom Patrol &amp; Animal Man taught us anything, it&#039;s that when it happens in a Grant Morrison comic, it sticks around forever, and becomes the fabric on which continuities are built!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;.Marionette Says:<br />
02/6/08 at 8:26 am<br />
Thanks for setting us all straight on that, Mike. I’m sure everyone will be delighted to know that they don’t need to care about Steph, or what she represents.</p>
<p>Perhaps you’d also like to tell us what’s an appropriate feminist issue? I mean, you clearly have a much better grasp on the situation than everyone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Loya Paktia are still settling tribal feuds with the exchange of women.  It&#8217;s not going to be as easy as getting a made-up imaginary case in a dream sequence in a made-up imaginary story about made-up imaginary people, but it&#8217;s A) totally for reals, and B) totally sexist and C) totally awful.</p>
<p>Problems include:  there isn&#8217;t a current attempt by anybody to do anything about it, it&#8217;s in Afghanistan, and probably will require more work than going on the internet and writing stuff down.   But the possible success includes far more than bragging rights in blog comments!  See, if one were part of a movement that helped end the exchange of women to settle tribal feuds, then one could actually change and affect the lives of women suffering from all sorts of sexual violation, including rape and a whole litany of horrors.   And here&#8217;s the thing&#8211;while everytime you torture and murder a Stephanie Brown, an angel gets it&#8217;s wings, everytime it actually happens in real life to a real human being, then an angel gets grossed out by your Chesire Cat smile over an imaginary display case.</p>
<p>Still, I certainly think that the first step is a panel in a Grant Morrison comic book.  If New X-Men, Doom Patrol &amp; Animal Man taught us anything, it&#8217;s that when it happens in a Grant Morrison comic, it sticks around forever, and becomes the fabric on which continuities are built!</p>
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		<title>By: Mika</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32011</link>
		<dc:creator>Mika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Tamora Pierce Says:
&gt;&gt;02/5/08 at 11:43 am
&gt;&gt;What did Tim (Liebe) and I do, chop’ liver? (White Tiger/Marvel)

Yours was exactly the book I thought of when I read this! I loved White Tiger, and I&#039;d love to see you work on an ongoing title, if your other commitments ever allowed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Tamora Pierce Says:<br />
&gt;&gt;02/5/08 at 11:43 am<br />
&gt;&gt;What did Tim (Liebe) and I do, chop’ liver? (White Tiger/Marvel)</p>
<p>Yours was exactly the book I thought of when I read this! I loved White Tiger, and I&#8217;d love to see you work on an ongoing title, if your other commitments ever allowed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marionette</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32010</link>
		<dc:creator>Marionette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for setting us all straight on that, Mike.  I&#039;m sure everyone will be delighted to know that they don&#039;t need to care about Steph, or what she represents.

Perhaps you&#039;d also like to tell us what&#039;s an appropriate feminist issue?  I mean, you clearly have a much better grasp on the situation than everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for setting us all straight on that, Mike.  I&#8217;m sure everyone will be delighted to know that they don&#8217;t need to care about Steph, or what she represents.</p>
<p>Perhaps you&#8217;d also like to tell us what&#8217;s an appropriate feminist issue?  I mean, you clearly have a much better grasp on the situation than everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32009</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Stephanie Brown was not Robin.

Batman only hired her so he could fire her and get her off the streets. He never wanted to replace Tim.

As for turning it into some kind of feminist issue, please. Pick something other than a six month storyline to get all ismed about, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Stephanie Brown was not Robin.</p>
<p>Batman only hired her so he could fire her and get her off the streets. He never wanted to replace Tim.</p>
<p>As for turning it into some kind of feminist issue, please. Pick something other than a six month storyline to get all ismed about, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marionette</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32008</link>
		<dc:creator>Marionette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s gonna take a metric f*ckload of deck chairs, though.&quot;

My quote of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s gonna take a metric f*ckload of deck chairs, though.&#8221;</p>
<p>My quote of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32007</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birds of Prey?</description>
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		<title>By: MLO</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32006</link>
		<dc:creator>MLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with Wonder Woman?  It has a history of being poorly written light fetish porn.  This may be changing under the new writers, but I haven&#039;t picked one up to know.

Personally, I think, despite the idiotic Civil War arc, Marvel is doing a much better job right now with bringing in new writing talent and new takes on old characters.  I don&#039;t like everything written by everyone, but I know I gravitate more towards Marvel and its subsidiaries than I do DC and its subsidiaries.

Of course, there are the independents, but they just don&#039;t have the marketing force or fan base necessary.  I wish more publishing houses would change over the the Manga type format with quarterly publications.  I think the format is just better for the reader experience.  I did not always think this way, but unless it is something I really, really want, like Buffy, I wait for the collections.

Even Marvel falls down, though.  Kitty Pride being a perfect example.  She should never have been written as a &quot;girl of loose morals.&quot;  It did not fit the background of the character at all.  There are a lot of people who seem hell bent on creating sexual angst where in normal day-to-day life there wouldn&#039;t be.  I really liked the 1990s Kitty Pride and Iliana and thought they were neglected interesting characters.

I dunno.  Maybe I&#039;m weird.  But I see the Spider-Girl series as a very realistic portrayal of teen angst about a &quot;super&quot; parent.  I mean, after all, she is a shadow of her dad in some ways.  I&#039;ve only read to issue 50, but I see that she is growing and becoming her own type of hero.  Where her dad would have had smart ass quips and punches, she talks and tries to touch the emotions of her enemies.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn&#039;t.  She is a little more together than a teenager would really be, but who wants to read a Judy Blum novel with Spider-Girl as the central character?

hrm... this is getting long.  I think I may need to turn this into a blog entry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with Wonder Woman?  It has a history of being poorly written light fetish porn.  This may be changing under the new writers, but I haven&#8217;t picked one up to know.</p>
<p>Personally, I think, despite the idiotic Civil War arc, Marvel is doing a much better job right now with bringing in new writing talent and new takes on old characters.  I don&#8217;t like everything written by everyone, but I know I gravitate more towards Marvel and its subsidiaries than I do DC and its subsidiaries.</p>
<p>Of course, there are the independents, but they just don&#8217;t have the marketing force or fan base necessary.  I wish more publishing houses would change over the the Manga type format with quarterly publications.  I think the format is just better for the reader experience.  I did not always think this way, but unless it is something I really, really want, like Buffy, I wait for the collections.</p>
<p>Even Marvel falls down, though.  Kitty Pride being a perfect example.  She should never have been written as a &#8220;girl of loose morals.&#8221;  It did not fit the background of the character at all.  There are a lot of people who seem hell bent on creating sexual angst where in normal day-to-day life there wouldn&#8217;t be.  I really liked the 1990s Kitty Pride and Iliana and thought they were neglected interesting characters.</p>
<p>I dunno.  Maybe I&#8217;m weird.  But I see the Spider-Girl series as a very realistic portrayal of teen angst about a &#8220;super&#8221; parent.  I mean, after all, she is a shadow of her dad in some ways.  I&#8217;ve only read to issue 50, but I see that she is growing and becoming her own type of hero.  Where her dad would have had smart ass quips and punches, she talks and tries to touch the emotions of her enemies.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t.  She is a little more together than a teenager would really be, but who wants to read a Judy Blum novel with Spider-Girl as the central character?</p>
<p>hrm&#8230; this is getting long.  I think I may need to turn this into a blog entry&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32005</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considerably higher quality than that, I thought.</description>
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		<title>By: Tamora Pierce</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32004</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamora Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did Tim (Liebe) and I do, chop&#039; liver?  (White Tiger/Marvel)</description>
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		<title>By: Dwight Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32003</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; rallying point, and not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly <i>a</i> rallying point, and not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: wek</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32002</link>
		<dc:creator>wek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the rallying point for an entire generation of fangirls.&quot;

really?

really?

no hyperbole involved here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the rallying point for an entire generation of fangirls.&#8221;</p>
<p>really?</p>
<p>really?</p>
<p>no hyperbole involved here?</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Chaos</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32001</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor Chaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Joe Williams: It’s like I say to people, you could work your butt off trying to make the Republican Party friendly to the working class or you could save yourself the time and frustration and just vote Democratic]

Good point. I&#039;ve been &quot;voting democratic&quot; for many years now, and I couldn&#039;t be happier with the current situation in comics. There are more great comics coming out right now than ever before.

I feel kind of sorry for people who expect mainstream comics to get better. What&#039;s the point? If you want to read great superhero comics, pick up the Lee/Kirby run of Fantastic Four.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Joe Williams: It’s like I say to people, you could work your butt off trying to make the Republican Party friendly to the working class or you could save yourself the time and frustration and just vote Democratic]</p>
<p>Good point. I&#8217;ve been &#8220;voting democratic&#8221; for many years now, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier with the current situation in comics. There are more great comics coming out right now than ever before.</p>
<p>I feel kind of sorry for people who expect mainstream comics to get better. What&#8217;s the point? If you want to read great superhero comics, pick up the Lee/Kirby run of Fantastic Four.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Moonlight</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2008/02/04/grant-morrison-makes-girls-happy/#comment-32000</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Moonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How hungry are we (and by we, I mean me, too) for change in comics, that these small moments mean so much to us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How hungry are we (and by we, I mean me, too) for change in comics, that these small moments mean so much to us?</p>
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