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	<title>Comments on: Marvel and Del Rey announce manga pact</title>
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		<title>By: ozmandiasII</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27325</link>
		<dc:creator>ozmandiasII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolverine...bishounen...DOES NOT COMPUTE.</description>
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		<title>By: shellSeenunawn</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27324</link>
		<dc:creator>shellSeenunawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gscyqtggvuahowwfwell, hi admin adn people nice forum indeed. how&#039;s life? hope it&#039;s introduce branch ;)</description>
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		<title>By: FurikoMaru</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27323</link>
		<dc:creator>FurikoMaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear.

Now my inner manga otaku and my inner comic book geek get to have a Thunderdome battle to decide once and for all who is more disturbed by this. This is going to be difficult, as they&#039;re the same person.
*has no brand loyalty and will go anywhere there&#039;s decent writing and pretty art*

Obviously I&#039;ll give them a chance, because I like to think I&#039;m a reasonable chick. Yeah, it&#039;s an obvious outstretched hand for my money, but so what? I&#039;m an anime/manga fan; once you&#039;re hooked you lose all respect for your wallet anyway. Besides, the thought of X-Men as a reverse harem is hysterical - every female-authored fanfic EVER regarding that school seems to fall into the love-quadrangle category anyway, so it&#039;s nice to see them acknowledge that part of the fanbase ! ^_^

Bishie Logan, however, makes my brain hurt. *taps the artist on the shoulder* Pardon me, sir/ma&#039;am, but *I&#039;m* a female and (mostly) straight manga reader, and I have had a crush on the gentleman in question since I was *five*. Just what about that says &quot;scruffy and masculine = unmarketable to young women&quot;? Have you never read Hellsing? Or, heaven forbid, Lupin III? It IS stylistically possible in this medium to have an attractive male character who isn&#039;t *pretty*, ya know.
And, did mine ears detect the word &quot;shounen&quot; floating about (not here, but definitely somewhere in relation to this topic)? Seriously? &#039;Boys comics&#039;? The repository of youthful optimism and trust in the honour of your friends? And you want to make *Wolverine* the main character?

...

*headdesk*

He&#039;s a &quot;seinen&quot; (intended for guys 17+) character if I ever saw one! Snarky as hell? Check. Chainsmoker? Check. Heavy drinker? Check. Loner (and I mean a REAL loner, not &quot;angsty barely-post-pubescent fangirl bait in &#039;edgy&#039; black clothes&quot;)? Check. Tends to kill people a helluvalot? Check. Still a (semi) decent guy in spite of all this? Check. Hell, make him a priest and you&#039;ve got Genjyo Sanzo of Saiyuki fame (admittedly a &#039;josei&#039; [chicks 17+] title, but also a violent-as-hell crossover success of which aspiring manga-esque writers/artists should take note)! What were you thinking?
 - Crazy-lady rant complete -
*wanders off to stuff Nick Fury in a closet before they decide to &#039;manga-fy&#039; him, too*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.</p>
<p>Now my inner manga otaku and my inner comic book geek get to have a Thunderdome battle to decide once and for all who is more disturbed by this. This is going to be difficult, as they&#8217;re the same person.<br />
*has no brand loyalty and will go anywhere there&#8217;s decent writing and pretty art*</p>
<p>Obviously I&#8217;ll give them a chance, because I like to think I&#8217;m a reasonable chick. Yeah, it&#8217;s an obvious outstretched hand for my money, but so what? I&#8217;m an anime/manga fan; once you&#8217;re hooked you lose all respect for your wallet anyway. Besides, the thought of X-Men as a reverse harem is hysterical &#8211; every female-authored fanfic EVER regarding that school seems to fall into the love-quadrangle category anyway, so it&#8217;s nice to see them acknowledge that part of the fanbase ! ^_^</p>
<p>Bishie Logan, however, makes my brain hurt. *taps the artist on the shoulder* Pardon me, sir/ma&#8217;am, but *I&#8217;m* a female and (mostly) straight manga reader, and I have had a crush on the gentleman in question since I was *five*. Just what about that says &#8220;scruffy and masculine = unmarketable to young women&#8221;? Have you never read Hellsing? Or, heaven forbid, Lupin III? It IS stylistically possible in this medium to have an attractive male character who isn&#8217;t *pretty*, ya know.<br />
And, did mine ears detect the word &#8220;shounen&#8221; floating about (not here, but definitely somewhere in relation to this topic)? Seriously? &#8216;Boys comics&#8217;? The repository of youthful optimism and trust in the honour of your friends? And you want to make *Wolverine* the main character?</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>*headdesk*</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a &#8220;seinen&#8221; (intended for guys 17+) character if I ever saw one! Snarky as hell? Check. Chainsmoker? Check. Heavy drinker? Check. Loner (and I mean a REAL loner, not &#8220;angsty barely-post-pubescent fangirl bait in &#8216;edgy&#8217; black clothes&#8221;)? Check. Tends to kill people a helluvalot? Check. Still a (semi) decent guy in spite of all this? Check. Hell, make him a priest and you&#8217;ve got Genjyo Sanzo of Saiyuki fame (admittedly a &#8216;josei&#8217; [chicks 17+] title, but also a violent-as-hell crossover success of which aspiring manga-esque writers/artists should take note)! What were you thinking?<br />
 &#8211; Crazy-lady rant complete -<br />
*wanders off to stuff Nick Fury in a closet before they decide to &#8216;manga-fy&#8217; him, too*</p>
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		<title>By: Daddy</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27322</link>
		<dc:creator>Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn japanases, now the x-men? Bah.</description>
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		<title>By: Fleen: Your Favorite Faux-Muckrakers Since 2005 &#187; MocCA Report (Without Fire)</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27321</link>
		<dc:creator>Fleen: Your Favorite Faux-Muckrakers Since 2005 &#187; MocCA Report (Without Fire)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Webcomickers seen at the show, in addition to the above, included Jon Rosenberg, Rich Stevens, Jeff Rowland, Sam Brown, Jeph Jacques, Chris Hastings, Alexander Danner, Dave Roman, Raina Telgemeier (who reports the with her last Babysitters Club book about to be released, she is looking forward to receiving hate mail from people upset about her treatment of the X-Men instead of her treatment of Kristy, Stacie, et. al.), Randall Munroe, Ryan Sias, Dirk Tiede, Shaenon Garrity, Danielle Corsetto, Bryan Lee O&#8217;Malley, and MoCCA curator-extraordinaire Jen Babcock. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Webcomickers seen at the show, in addition to the above, included Jon Rosenberg, Rich Stevens, Jeff Rowland, Sam Brown, Jeph Jacques, Chris Hastings, Alexander Danner, Dave Roman, Raina Telgemeier (who reports the with her last Babysitters Club book about to be released, she is looking forward to receiving hate mail from people upset about her treatment of the X-Men instead of her treatment of Kristy, Stacie, et. al.), Randall Munroe, Ryan Sias, Dirk Tiede, Shaenon Garrity, Danielle Corsetto, Bryan Lee O&#8217;Malley, and MoCCA curator-extraordinaire Jen Babcock. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27320</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE END IS NEAR!!</description>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27319</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the &quot;pop&quot; manga style is that it is not sufficient enough in itself to show character. Hence, you have a Wolverine who looks like some anorexic emo-punk kid who hasn&#039;t even graduated from puberty yet.

Not all manga translations are bad though- The guy who drew Wolverine: Snickt! did a good job, and Kia Asamiya did retain the super-hero factor when he drew for X-Men. Personally, I think they should get better artists, those who can actually portray character rather than just say, &quot;LOOK AT ME! I LOOK PRETTY!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the &#8220;pop&#8221; manga style is that it is not sufficient enough in itself to show character. Hence, you have a Wolverine who looks like some anorexic emo-punk kid who hasn&#8217;t even graduated from puberty yet.</p>
<p>Not all manga translations are bad though- The guy who drew Wolverine: Snickt! did a good job, and Kia Asamiya did retain the super-hero factor when he drew for X-Men. Personally, I think they should get better artists, those who can actually portray character rather than just say, &#8220;LOOK AT ME! I LOOK PRETTY!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27318</link>
		<dc:creator>Alyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg I hope they Rogue and Gambit I mean they are so classic and I could just see Rogue in cute knee highs and Gambit is just perfect enough said if they don&#039;t appear I&#039;ll still read it *-* but I&#039;ll still be heartbroken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg I hope they Rogue and Gambit I mean they are so classic and I could just see Rogue in cute knee highs and Gambit is just perfect enough said if they don&#8217;t appear I&#8217;ll still read it *-* but I&#8217;ll still be heartbroken</p>
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		<title>By: Blog@Newsarama &#187; Variations on a Theme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog@Newsarama &#187; Variations on a Theme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News about an upcoming Shoujo Manga-style X-Men comic have been making the rounds lately to varied reactions. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kremlin</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27316</link>
		<dc:creator>Kremlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everything I love about comic books just died.  I am very sad about this loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everything I love about comic books just died.  I am very sad about this loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Rem</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27315</link>
		<dc:creator>Rem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I see. So I wasn&#039;t an existing demographic for the NORMAL comic books, but now that they&#039;ve prettied it up, boy howdy, I&#039;m going to shell out my cash! I was hesitant to spend my money before. Now I&#039;ll be falling all over myself to get this!

Pull the other one, Quesada.

You want to capture the female market? Write believable female characters, hire female writers and artists, and let it rip. Stop marketing what you think young women want and, you know, ASK THEM. Simply changing the aesthetics is only going to drive dedicated female comic book readers (since they are the best source of advertising by word-of-mouth to other girls, who knew) farther away. Stop patronizing and assuming the nature of the demographic. Stuff like this only convinces me that no research is really being done.

I don&#039;t want sparkles. Try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I see. So I wasn&#8217;t an existing demographic for the NORMAL comic books, but now that they&#8217;ve prettied it up, boy howdy, I&#8217;m going to shell out my cash! I was hesitant to spend my money before. Now I&#8217;ll be falling all over myself to get this!</p>
<p>Pull the other one, Quesada.</p>
<p>You want to capture the female market? Write believable female characters, hire female writers and artists, and let it rip. Stop marketing what you think young women want and, you know, ASK THEM. Simply changing the aesthetics is only going to drive dedicated female comic book readers (since they are the best source of advertising by word-of-mouth to other girls, who knew) farther away. Stop patronizing and assuming the nature of the demographic. Stuff like this only convinces me that no research is really being done.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want sparkles. Try again.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanny</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27314</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another cheap ploy for Marvel to try and hook a wider, specifically female, audience, without even trying to understand their target audience at all, and so instead coming across as half-arsed and patronising. They&#039;d do better getting the licences to some actual damn manga and releasing them in English under a sub-label than wasting time with this sort of silliness.

Sure, this might hit a few very young girls who have just read Angel Sanctuary, but what about the hardcore female manga readers with the disposable incomes to really make an impact on the sales? They&#039;re too well-read to fall for this cheap imitation of the genre they enjoy, which has been the problem with female-orientated ESL manga in all its forms since the US decided to jump on board the ship. And still marketing it as &quot;YA&quot; and &quot;shoujo&quot;, when the attraction of manga to Western audiences from the get-go has been the fact it caters to all ages and genders in society? Not a smart move. This sort of rubbish just puts the genre in the West about 20 years behind (both in writing and in art) what&#039;s being released in Japan right now, and what the hardcore big-spending women are importing themselves and stealing off the internet and loving here and now.

Maybe, if Marvel really wants to attract some young female audiences (or at least their wallets), maybe it should start writing some decent young female superheroes in it&#039;s normal range. It was something it wasn&#039;t terrible at, a long time ago, it&#039;s just now it&#039;s lost it&#039;s way and has forgotten how to address a female audience in a form that isn&#039;t patronising or downright insulting.

Unless Marvel&#039;s also going to release the required tie-in love game with the clear harem manga that this is. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another cheap ploy for Marvel to try and hook a wider, specifically female, audience, without even trying to understand their target audience at all, and so instead coming across as half-arsed and patronising. They&#8217;d do better getting the licences to some actual damn manga and releasing them in English under a sub-label than wasting time with this sort of silliness.</p>
<p>Sure, this might hit a few very young girls who have just read Angel Sanctuary, but what about the hardcore female manga readers with the disposable incomes to really make an impact on the sales? They&#8217;re too well-read to fall for this cheap imitation of the genre they enjoy, which has been the problem with female-orientated ESL manga in all its forms since the US decided to jump on board the ship. And still marketing it as &#8220;YA&#8221; and &#8220;shoujo&#8221;, when the attraction of manga to Western audiences from the get-go has been the fact it caters to all ages and genders in society? Not a smart move. This sort of rubbish just puts the genre in the West about 20 years behind (both in writing and in art) what&#8217;s being released in Japan right now, and what the hardcore big-spending women are importing themselves and stealing off the internet and loving here and now.</p>
<p>Maybe, if Marvel really wants to attract some young female audiences (or at least their wallets), maybe it should start writing some decent young female superheroes in it&#8217;s normal range. It was something it wasn&#8217;t terrible at, a long time ago, it&#8217;s just now it&#8217;s lost it&#8217;s way and has forgotten how to address a female audience in a form that isn&#8217;t patronising or downright insulting.</p>
<p>Unless Marvel&#8217;s also going to release the required tie-in love game with the clear harem manga that this is. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: d.</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27313</link>
		<dc:creator>d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...thats wolverine? what the... oh no.. come on logan isn&#039;t logan with out the scruffie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;thats wolverine? what the&#8230; oh no.. come on logan isn&#8217;t logan with out the scruffie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/10/marvel-and-del-rey-announce-manga-pact/#comment-27312</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just...no.  What the hell have you done with Wolverine?  You can make him &#039;sexy&#039; without turning him into a prepubescent boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just&#8230;no.  What the hell have you done with Wolverine?  You can make him &#8217;sexy&#8217; without turning him into a prepubescent boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Shojo X-men manga - GeneralForum.com - General Forum - Chat about anything and everything!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shojo X-men manga - GeneralForum.com - General Forum - Chat about anything and everything!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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