Comments on: Sundays with Rob http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/ The News Blog of Comics Culture Sat, 11 Feb 2012 13:22:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= hourly 1 By: Gary http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26910 Gary Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:45:48 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26910 Yes! LOL with a dash of Andy Warhol too. Yes! LOL with a dash of Andy Warhol too.

]]> By: Brian Spence http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26909 Brian Spence Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:00:40 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26909 ooooooowwwwwww, that hurts. ooooooowwwwwww, that hurts.

]]> By: Al http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26908 Al Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:03:56 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26908 Just saw this Spice girls photo. Tell me, the Spice girl on the far right, Beckham Spice, isn't she looking a little Liefeldish? http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00380/Spice_Girls_380906a.jpg Just saw this Spice girls photo. Tell me, the Spice girl on the far right, Beckham Spice, isn’t she looking a little Liefeldish?
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00380/Spice_Girls_380906a.jpg

]]> By: Joe S. Walker http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26907 Joe S. Walker Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:43:36 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26907 Looking at too much Rob Liefeld art makes me feel slightly ill, but... in a way I think he gets superhero comics - that they should be full of things leaping off the page and feel as if they're drawn in a hurry. His work has a basic vitality. Compared to the dreadful pretentiousness and fake-classicism of Alex Ross, or the innumerable artists who turn out boringly photo-realistic mock-movie storyboards, he doesn't come off badly at all. Looking at too much Rob Liefeld art makes me feel slightly ill, but… in a way I think he gets superhero comics – that they should be full of things leaping off the page and feel as if they’re drawn in a hurry. His work has a basic vitality. Compared to the dreadful pretentiousness and fake-classicism of Alex Ross, or the innumerable artists who turn out boringly photo-realistic mock-movie storyboards, he doesn’t come off badly at all.

]]> By: rich http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26906 rich Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:41:27 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26906 from Wikipedia: "Rob Liefeld, (born October 3, 1967) is an American comic book writer, illustrator, and publisher. A prominent artist in the 1990s, he has since become a controversial figure in the medium." Controversial? Meaning ... no one likes his work any longer? Everyone's taste changed when they grew up? from Wikipedia:
“Rob Liefeld, (born October 3, 1967) is an American comic book writer, illustrator, and publisher. A prominent artist in the 1990s, he has since become a controversial figure in the medium.”

Controversial? Meaning … no one likes his work any longer? Everyone’s taste changed when they grew up?

]]> By: Al http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26905 Al Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:36:56 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26905 Very funny article, and very astute observations. Very funny article, and very astute observations.

]]> By: Brian Jacoby from Secret Headquarters Tallahassee, Florida http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26904 Brian Jacoby from Secret Headquarters Tallahassee, Florida Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:23:33 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26904 My throat is now sore from laughing so hard! My throat is now sore from laughing so hard!

]]> By: Liz http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26903 Liz Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:09:40 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26903 I had the greatest moment just now where I was reading this entry and my screen was only scrolled to just above her waist, and I thought to myself, "Why that drawing's not SO bad!" Then I scrolled down. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I had the greatest moment just now where I was reading this entry and my screen was only scrolled to just above her waist, and I thought to myself, “Why that drawing’s not SO bad!”

Then I scrolled down.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

]]> By: Pedro Bouça http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26902 Pedro Bouça Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:18:10 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26902 Rob Liefeld IS the modern-day Fletcher Hanks. Live with that! Best, Hunter (Pedro Bouça) Rob Liefeld IS the modern-day Fletcher Hanks. Live with that!

Best,
Hunter (Pedro Bouça)

]]> By: Doctor http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26901 Doctor Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:32:18 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26901 Here is where Liefeld enters the realm of "so bad it's good": http://jrients.blogspot.com/2007/02/oh-my-god-no-seriously.html Here is where Liefeld enters the realm of “so bad it’s good”:

http://jrients.blogspot.com/2007/02/oh-my-god-no-seriously.html

]]> By: Bill http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26900 Bill Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:29:54 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26900 The Leifeld crimes and this: http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html were the first things I looked at this morning, and made a brilliant follow-up to Ellis's Sunday Hangover on SG. Hell of a morning. The Leifeld crimes and this: http://www.cowboybooks.com.au/html/acidtrip1.html were the first things I looked at this morning, and made a brilliant follow-up to Ellis’s Sunday Hangover on SG.

Hell of a morning.

]]> By: michael http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26899 michael Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:11:33 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26899 LOL! Liefeld art always is a laugh to look at. ;) LOL!

Liefeld art always is a laugh to look at. ;)

]]> By: Matt B http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26898 Matt B Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:23:20 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26898 I think the 2nd biggest problem with his art (1st being anatomy), is that he was staring at art by Jim Lee and Todd McFarlane and trying to make the marks Jim Lee made, without always understanding why a particular mark would be made in a particular place. Like those vertical lines down from her left armpit and on her left leg,... he had a chance to model the form and increase the illusion of volume there, even without cross hatching, but spacing the lines evenly just flattens out the art. Same thing with the cross hatching on her left forearm; he had a chance to add volume by curling the lines, or using shorter hatches at gradually increased angles, but he didn't. And it happens in just about everything he did back then, so it just makes me think he thought "there should probably be some lines there," so he just put lines there, without fully knowing why, and without fully knowing how to make the lines achieve the effect he wanted. I guess overall the big problem is that it looks like he learned to draw by copying Jim Lee and Todd McFarlane, and didn't check back in with reality often enough to keep his art grounded. Success seemed to reduce any motivation to improve his art? Like if he admits he can't draw feet so well, why not go, you know, learn how to draw feet? Life drawing would have helped a lot (hand studies, feet studies, all that). Studying a wider variety of comic art mark-making would have helped, too. You see this a lot in manga, too, especially at cons, where you can sometimes really tell an artist has taught themselves to draw by copying anime and manga, and allowing no other influences. Art school admissions staff must tear out their hair over all the DBZ and Naruto art they see in portfolios... I think the 2nd biggest problem with his art (1st being anatomy), is that he was staring at art by Jim Lee and Todd McFarlane and trying to make the marks Jim Lee made, without always understanding why a particular mark would be made in a particular place. Like those vertical lines down from her left armpit and on her left leg,… he had a chance to model the form and increase the illusion of volume there, even without cross hatching, but spacing the lines evenly just flattens out the art. Same thing with the cross hatching on her left forearm; he had a chance to add volume by curling the lines, or using shorter hatches at gradually increased angles, but he didn’t. And it happens in just about everything he did back then, so it just makes me think he thought “there should probably be some lines there,” so he just put lines there, without fully knowing why, and without fully knowing how to make the lines achieve the effect he wanted.

I guess overall the big problem is that it looks like he learned to draw by copying Jim Lee and Todd McFarlane, and didn’t check back in with reality often enough to keep his art grounded. Success seemed to reduce any motivation to improve his art? Like if he admits he can’t draw feet so well, why not go, you know, learn how to draw feet? Life drawing would have helped a lot (hand studies, feet studies, all that). Studying a wider variety of comic art mark-making would have helped, too.

You see this a lot in manga, too, especially at cons, where you can sometimes really tell an artist has taught themselves to draw by copying anime and manga, and allowing no other influences. Art school admissions staff must tear out their hair over all the DBZ and Naruto art they see in portfolios…

]]> By: Alan Coil http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26897 Alan Coil Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:20:47 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26897 Well, pretty much all of us. Well, pretty much all of us.

]]> By: groonk http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26896 groonk Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:20:01 +0000 http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/12/02/sundays-with-rob/#comment-26896 i think it's possible that Lefield is Hanks reincarnated. and they laughed at us behind their 90s popularity. who's laughing now, fools? who's laughing now. i think it’s possible that Lefield is Hanks reincarnated. and they laughed at us behind their 90s popularity.

who’s laughing now, fools?

who’s laughing now.

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