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		<title>By: “All The World Is Waiting For You”*: Why We Need a Wonder Woman Video Game &#8211; Techland &#8211; TIME.com &#124; TrendsCovered.com</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-51026</link>
		<dc:creator>“All The World Is Waiting For You”*: Why We Need a Wonder Woman Video Game &#8211; Techland &#8211; TIME.com &#124; TrendsCovered.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last &#102;&#101;&#119; years, there&#8217;s &#98;&#101;&#101;&#110; a bit of talk &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; how tough it is to &#103;&#101;&#116; movies with female leads [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the last &#102;&#101;&#119; years, there&#8217;s &#98;&#101;&#101;&#110; a bit of talk &#97;&#98;&#111;&#117;&#116; how tough it is to &#103;&#101;&#116; movies with female leads [...]</p>
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		<title>By: “All The World Is Waiting For You”*: Why There Should be a Wonder Woman Video Game - Techland - TIME.com</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-49046</link>
		<dc:creator>“All The World Is Waiting For You”*: Why There Should be a Wonder Woman Video Game - Techland - TIME.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last few years, there&#039;s been a bit of talk about how tough it is to get movies with female leads greenlit in Hollywood, whether they&#039;re [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry S</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24329</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super-Duper site! I am loving it!! Will come back again - taking you feeds also, Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super-Duper site! I am loving it!! Will come back again &#8211; taking you feeds also, Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: sizgenetics reviews</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24328</link>
		<dc:creator>sizgenetics reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all these &quot;what the hell&quot; movies it&#039;s nothing serious for babies, all new Disney movies are full of slang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all these &#8220;what the hell&#8221; movies it&#8217;s nothing serious for babies, all new Disney movies are full of slang</p>
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		<title>By: diapers coupons lady</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24327</link>
		<dc:creator>diapers coupons lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding movies for babies it&#039;s not so bad, I like some new Disney cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding movies for babies it&#8217;s not so bad, I like some new Disney cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: pro solution</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24326</link>
		<dc:creator>pro solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For last years Hollywood is really full of shit... Because of the comment is written, I can&#039;t say more. But 5-6 hard promoted and in the same time bad movies per year become a standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For last years Hollywood is really full of shit&#8230; Because of the comment is written, I can&#8217;t say more. But 5-6 hard promoted and in the same time bad movies per year become a standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24325</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlequin, who primarily sells romances to women, publishes more than six dozen books per month.  Some few years back, Harlequin launched the Bombshell book line, all with female action-heroine leads.  &quot;Women who kick ass&quot; adventures, ala Jennifer Garner in the TV show &quot;Alias&quot;.  The line didn&#039;t do well, even though the books were above par for the romance genre (in my opinion).  Harlequin closed the line last year.

One could write a doctoral dissertation on the reasons why female action heroines are a hard sell.  If you did compose such an analysis, you&#039;d probably have to include chapters on why most Disney heroines are motherless/orphaned.

You&#039;d also have to define what a female hero is, the difference between and include examples... I mean, some female heroes would seem to be so alpha as to lose most of what makes the character feminine.  The actress who plays Starbuck in BSG and the badass character in the new Bionic Woman show doesn&#039;t have too much femininity attached to either character.

The flip side to the alpha female isn&#039;t the &quot;Wilting Mary&quot; but the femme fatale -- great, but usually best suited for a villain role.

The best female action hero roles are the ones where the feminine side plays a key role, and this is subject to much debate.  Aliens, is usually an example everyone can relate to here.  Also Shakespeare In Love to a similar extent.  Several other examples here.

I can&#039;t address the Jodi Foster movies mentioned above, but isn&#039;t the plot on most of those, &quot;Everyone might think I&#039;m a &#039;Wilting Mary&#039; but I&#039;ll show you I&#039;m not!!&quot; ?

I definitely can&#039;t comment on Wonder Woman, because my only exposure was the Lynda Carter TV series, and that left me a changed boy... If Superman detractors just refer to him as a superpowered Boy Scout, is Wonder Woman a superpowered Girl Scout, or is there something else I&#039;m missing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlequin, who primarily sells romances to women, publishes more than six dozen books per month.  Some few years back, Harlequin launched the Bombshell book line, all with female action-heroine leads.  &#8220;Women who kick ass&#8221; adventures, ala Jennifer Garner in the TV show &#8220;Alias&#8221;.  The line didn&#8217;t do well, even though the books were above par for the romance genre (in my opinion).  Harlequin closed the line last year.</p>
<p>One could write a doctoral dissertation on the reasons why female action heroines are a hard sell.  If you did compose such an analysis, you&#8217;d probably have to include chapters on why most Disney heroines are motherless/orphaned.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d also have to define what a female hero is, the difference between and include examples&#8230; I mean, some female heroes would seem to be so alpha as to lose most of what makes the character feminine.  The actress who plays Starbuck in BSG and the badass character in the new Bionic Woman show doesn&#8217;t have too much femininity attached to either character.</p>
<p>The flip side to the alpha female isn&#8217;t the &#8220;Wilting Mary&#8221; but the femme fatale &#8212; great, but usually best suited for a villain role.</p>
<p>The best female action hero roles are the ones where the feminine side plays a key role, and this is subject to much debate.  Aliens, is usually an example everyone can relate to here.  Also Shakespeare In Love to a similar extent.  Several other examples here.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t address the Jodi Foster movies mentioned above, but isn&#8217;t the plot on most of those, &#8220;Everyone might think I&#8217;m a &#8216;Wilting Mary&#8217; but I&#8217;ll show you I&#8217;m not!!&#8221; ?</p>
<p>I definitely can&#8217;t comment on Wonder Woman, because my only exposure was the Lynda Carter TV series, and that left me a changed boy&#8230; If Superman detractors just refer to him as a superpowered Boy Scout, is Wonder Woman a superpowered Girl Scout, or is there something else I&#8217;m missing?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Warner Brothers right? The same company that while owning DC Comics SOLD OFF THEIR BOOK DIVISION! I mean, how much can we really expect from these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Warner Brothers right? The same company that while owning DC Comics SOLD OFF THEIR BOOK DIVISION! I mean, how much can we really expect from these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Spinney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Spinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I saw The Brave One. It was well executed, but made you want to wash your hands after seeing it. It was cold and dark and had a nasty and unforgiving core to it.

Plus, its general theme of a female under seige and fighting back reminded me of at least 2 other Foster movies. She has appeared in Panic Room, and uh, Flight Plan(?) Maybe she needs to look for richer material.

So, since a few recent movies didn&#039;t do boffo box office, there are to be no more movies with female leads? Hmm. Sounds like a coup for the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I saw The Brave One. It was well executed, but made you want to wash your hands after seeing it. It was cold and dark and had a nasty and unforgiving core to it.</p>
<p>Plus, its general theme of a female under seige and fighting back reminded me of at least 2 other Foster movies. She has appeared in Panic Room, and uh, Flight Plan(?) Maybe she needs to look for richer material.</p>
<p>So, since a few recent movies didn&#8217;t do boffo box office, there are to be no more movies with female leads? Hmm. Sounds like a coup for the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: the4thpiip</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24322</link>
		<dc:creator>the4thpiip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe they should start to make more movies that appeal to a demographic other than white teenage boys. It&#039;s not THAT surprising that that particular group will accept a strong female character only as an exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe they should start to make more movies that appeal to a demographic other than white teenage boys. It&#8217;s not THAT surprising that that particular group will accept a strong female character only as an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpopular</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpopular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all Dave Sim&#039;s fault.  Get the torches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all Dave Sim&#8217;s fault.  Get the torches!</p>
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		<title>By: V. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24320</link>
		<dc:creator>V. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s ridiculous.</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/10/08/warners-women-need-not-apply/#comment-24319</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Oh, and according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, SUPERMAN RETURNS took in $200 million in domestic total gross box office, which would have been fine if the production budget wasn’t $270 million (or more). BATMAN BEGINS only took in $5 million more in domestic gross but is deemed a success because it only had a production budget of $150 million.&lt;/b&gt;

Just an FYI, Superman Returns&#039; production budget was a little over $200 million.  The &quot;$240M budget&quot; everyone talks about includes previous development attempts dating back all the way back to 1994.  For the Singer film alone, it was something like $205M.

WB still made a profit on Returns - it made more money worldwide than Batman Begins did - over 400 million.  Factor in licensing, DVDs, etc. and you&#039;ve still got a moneymaker on your hands.  Hence the forthcoming sequel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Oh, and according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, SUPERMAN RETURNS took in $200 million in domestic total gross box office, which would have been fine if the production budget wasn’t $270 million (or more). BATMAN BEGINS only took in $5 million more in domestic gross but is deemed a success because it only had a production budget of $150 million.</b></p>
<p>Just an FYI, Superman Returns&#8217; production budget was a little over $200 million.  The &#8220;$240M budget&#8221; everyone talks about includes previous development attempts dating back all the way back to 1994.  For the Singer film alone, it was something like $205M.</p>
<p>WB still made a profit on Returns &#8211; it made more money worldwide than Batman Begins did &#8211; over 400 million.  Factor in licensing, DVDs, etc. and you&#8217;ve still got a moneymaker on your hands.  Hence the forthcoming sequel.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 years ago there was a sizeable audience for romantic comedies, which are the most commercial films with female leads.

I think the core issue is that there aren&#039;t any bankable stars like Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock filling that niche.  Or even Drew Barrymore.  Studios have tried to get the next generation of Roberts and Bullocks, but America hasn&#039;t really warmed to them - Lindsay Lohan, Jennifer Garner, etc.

So it&#039;s easy to see why studios don&#039;t want to commit to something that won&#039;t make money.  Until they find that next Julia Roberts, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 years ago there was a sizeable audience for romantic comedies, which are the most commercial films with female leads.</p>
<p>I think the core issue is that there aren&#8217;t any bankable stars like Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock filling that niche.  Or even Drew Barrymore.  Studios have tried to get the next generation of Roberts and Bullocks, but America hasn&#8217;t really warmed to them &#8211; Lindsay Lohan, Jennifer Garner, etc.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s easy to see why studios don&#8217;t want to commit to something that won&#8217;t make money.  Until they find that next Julia Roberts, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Davison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that movies with female leads tank at the box office couldn&#039;t be that overrated actresses are being miscast for films that have horrible scripts and are handled by incompetent, talentless directors, could it?

(CATWOMAN, I&#039;m looking at you...)

Oh, and according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, SUPERMAN RETURNS took in $200 million in domestic total gross box office, which would have been fine if the production budget wasn&#039;t $270 million (or more).  BATMAN BEGINS only took in $5 million more in domestic gross but is deemed a success because it only had a production budget of $150 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that movies with female leads tank at the box office couldn&#8217;t be that overrated actresses are being miscast for films that have horrible scripts and are handled by incompetent, talentless directors, could it?</p>
<p>(CATWOMAN, I&#8217;m looking at you&#8230;)</p>
<p>Oh, and according to BoxOfficeMojo.com, SUPERMAN RETURNS took in $200 million in domestic total gross box office, which would have been fine if the production budget wasn&#8217;t $270 million (or more).  BATMAN BEGINS only took in $5 million more in domestic gross but is deemed a success because it only had a production budget of $150 million.</p>
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