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	<title>Comments on: Nate Fisher/Eightball case mop-up</title>
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		<title>By: Alexandra</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-58205</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does she really thinks that her 13 years old daughter don’t know what sex is? Does she think that her daughetrs and her friends at school do not know more about today sexlife than she does?&quot;

The mother herself said herself that she *doesn&#039;t* have a problem with the *book* and she *does* have a problem with the teacher asking her daughter to stay *alone* with him *after class* in order for him to ask the kid how sexually explicit media makes her feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does she really thinks that her 13 years old daughter don’t know what sex is? Does she think that her daughetrs and her friends at school do not know more about today sexlife than she does?&#8221;</p>
<p>The mother herself said herself that she *doesn&#8217;t* have a problem with the *book* and she *does* have a problem with the teacher asking her daughter to stay *alone* with him *after class* in order for him to ask the kid how sexually explicit media makes her feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mini</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23798</link>
		<dc:creator>Mini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so I&#039;ve had more to say. Check out my posting on my blog: www.minivan-diaries.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so I&#8217;ve had more to say. Check out my posting on my blog: <a href="http://www.minivan-diaries.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.minivan-diaries.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mini</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23797</link>
		<dc:creator>Mini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scales, I can&#039;t disagree with you. There probably is more going on this case than the public knows about -- Nate Fisher himself could be seeking some sort of legal remedy. He potentially lost his career over this. I just wonder how much more the public will hear about it because nobody is asking anymore. I guess that&#039;s really my point -- there&#039;s no resolution, it&#039;s just like &quot;poof&quot; and he&#039;s gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scales, I can&#8217;t disagree with you. There probably is more going on this case than the public knows about &#8212; Nate Fisher himself could be seeking some sort of legal remedy. He potentially lost his career over this. I just wonder how much more the public will hear about it because nobody is asking anymore. I guess that&#8217;s really my point &#8212; there&#8217;s no resolution, it&#8217;s just like &#8220;poof&#8221; and he&#8217;s gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Hounds Rye</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23796</link>
		<dc:creator>Hounds Rye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When misunderstood, you can always spout a pair of balls (see the video) and sue...

Art Teacher Fired for ‘Butt Painting’ in Groucho Mask Sues School District

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6408
Dateline: Chesterfield County, VA - Source: WWBT-TV

&quot;Now that he has been fired, it certainly is important for him to do everything he can to try and sell his artwork. But what he really wanted was to be an art teacher in Chesterfield County.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When misunderstood, you can always spout a pair of balls (see the video) and sue&#8230;</p>
<p>Art Teacher Fired for ‘Butt Painting’ in Groucho Mask Sues School District</p>
<p><a href="http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6408" rel="nofollow">http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6408</a><br />
Dateline: Chesterfield County, VA &#8211; Source: WWBT-TV</p>
<p>&#8220;Now that he has been fired, it certainly is important for him to do everything he can to try and sell his artwork. But what he really wanted was to be an art teacher in Chesterfield County.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scales</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23795</link>
		<dc:creator>scales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mini, one reason I keep returning to this story is my impression is Nate Fisher is still subject to some sort of police investigation, and I want to know the outcome of that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mini, one reason I keep returning to this story is my impression is Nate Fisher is still subject to some sort of police investigation, and I want to know the outcome of that</p>
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		<title>By: Mini</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23794</link>
		<dc:creator>Mini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to keep beating a dead horse. What is frustrating is that there have been individuals who have been hurt badly as a result of this. I write from the perspective of a parent of teens, most people here seem to have arrived here from their passion for comics, there&#039;s also the perspective from someone in education at http://region19.blogspot.com who has written about his interest and gives his passionate feelings about this case. The hard truth is that it happened and people suffered. We can continue to talk about it, but it seems essentially over. Nate Fisher resigned he wasn&#039;t fired.

Shouldn&#039;t the focus be on where to go from here? Is the student doing better at school? Is Nate Fisher able to recover? It is all so quiet - nobody is talking about it anymore at the school. Or at least not publicly. Nobody really stood up in anyone&#039;s defense. And life goes on. And the bottom line in all of this, is the parties could at the very least look at what happened, admit all their errors, and walk away feeling like they have all learned some valuable lessons -- not even sure that something as basic as that has come from this. It just appears to be over - and that&#039;s the shame of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to keep beating a dead horse. What is frustrating is that there have been individuals who have been hurt badly as a result of this. I write from the perspective of a parent of teens, most people here seem to have arrived here from their passion for comics, there&#8217;s also the perspective from someone in education at <a href="http://region19.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://region19.blogspot.com</a> who has written about his interest and gives his passionate feelings about this case. The hard truth is that it happened and people suffered. We can continue to talk about it, but it seems essentially over. Nate Fisher resigned he wasn&#8217;t fired.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the focus be on where to go from here? Is the student doing better at school? Is Nate Fisher able to recover? It is all so quiet &#8211; nobody is talking about it anymore at the school. Or at least not publicly. Nobody really stood up in anyone&#8217;s defense. And life goes on. And the bottom line in all of this, is the parties could at the very least look at what happened, admit all their errors, and walk away feeling like they have all learned some valuable lessons &#8212; not even sure that something as basic as that has come from this. It just appears to be over &#8211; and that&#8217;s the shame of it.</p>
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		<title>By: ton strottmann</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23793</link>
		<dc:creator>ton strottmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Japan and even here this fact became a news.
I can see in Brazil too!

good way to protect your kid....
the problem about stupid people is usually they make the another close from them to feel shame,but themselves can not even realize .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Japan and even here this fact became a news.<br />
I can see in Brazil too!</p>
<p>good way to protect your kid&#8230;.<br />
the problem about stupid people is usually they make the another close from them to feel shame,but themselves can not even realize .</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Brazil Rio de Janeiro</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23792</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Brazil Rio de Janeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this case reflects the hypocrisis of our western society, &#039;cos the same parents that reacts like this over a comic book, let their kids watch several films with &quot;disguised&quot; sex scenes or insinuation, drugs, deaths, rape, etc. Not only films, but also sitcoms, tv shows, reality show and even some cartoons who use violence. This, in my opinion, is a distortion of values, people that only see bad things where they want to see. Does she really thinks that her 13 years old daughter don&#039;t know what sex is? Does she think that her daughetrs and her friends at school do not know more about today sexlife than she does? Well, unless her daughter was created in a bubble, she must come to the 21th century and study the behavior of our youth in the new decade. Even if a teenager do not follow their friends path, she will surely know more about sex, drugs, crimes and bad things than her parents... She should have talked to the teacher first before taking that attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this case reflects the hypocrisis of our western society, &#8216;cos the same parents that reacts like this over a comic book, let their kids watch several films with &#8220;disguised&#8221; sex scenes or insinuation, drugs, deaths, rape, etc. Not only films, but also sitcoms, tv shows, reality show and even some cartoons who use violence. This, in my opinion, is a distortion of values, people that only see bad things where they want to see. Does she really thinks that her 13 years old daughter don&#8217;t know what sex is? Does she think that her daughetrs and her friends at school do not know more about today sexlife than she does? Well, unless her daughter was created in a bubble, she must come to the 21th century and study the behavior of our youth in the new decade. Even if a teenager do not follow their friends path, she will surely know more about sex, drugs, crimes and bad things than her parents&#8230; She should have talked to the teacher first before taking that attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: curefreak</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23791</link>
		<dc:creator>curefreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the sad thing is that the Daughter who is the one truly innocent person in this whole thing is the one being punished severly.
i hope this teacher is able to continue with his life even if hes not teaching it would be a shame for one stupid mistake to ruin a persons whole life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the sad thing is that the Daughter who is the one truly innocent person in this whole thing is the one being punished severly.<br />
i hope this teacher is able to continue with his life even if hes not teaching it would be a shame for one stupid mistake to ruin a persons whole life.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23790</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Cho&#039;s Avengers book has 356% more bare asses than Ice Haven. That would&#039;ve been a funny story in the press; &quot;Iron Man, seen here beating up a silver nude woman with enormous tits, is at the center of a school controversy  involving a 13 year old and a teacher who some think is a hunchbacked perverted peeping tom with the clap...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Cho&#8217;s Avengers book has 356% more bare asses than Ice Haven. That would&#8217;ve been a funny story in the press; &#8220;Iron Man, seen here beating up a silver nude woman with enormous tits, is at the center of a school controversy  involving a 13 year old and a teacher who some think is a hunchbacked perverted peeping tom with the clap&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23789</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if you give &#039;Identity Crisis&#039; to a kid... then you&#039;re silly.

Wow, a superhero comic is dirtier than an indie comic. Who would see the day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if you give &#8216;Identity Crisis&#8217; to a kid&#8230; then you&#8217;re silly.</p>
<p>Wow, a superhero comic is dirtier than an indie comic. Who would see the day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scales</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23788</link>
		<dc:creator>scales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex:  &quot;...here’s the thing, Ice Haven could have been a copy of Marvel Adventures, and still the detractors would find something wrong with it.&quot;

This morning I found myself wondering, what if instead of Ice Haven it had been a copy of that DC Identity Crisis.  What if.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:  &#8220;&#8230;here’s the thing, Ice Haven could have been a copy of Marvel Adventures, and still the detractors would find something wrong with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This morning I found myself wondering, what if instead of Ice Haven it had been a copy of that DC Identity Crisis.  What if.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no. I do care. But here&#039;s the thing, Ice Haven could have been a copy of Marvel Adventures, and still the detractors would find something wrong with it. In the end, it doesn&#039;t matter. I gots me a life, and 250 comments later, what else is there to say. Hell, if I post the Ghost World thing I&#039;ll just repeat. This is more than a waste of bandwith now. I just have to respond to hatas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no. I do care. But here&#8217;s the thing, Ice Haven could have been a copy of Marvel Adventures, and still the detractors would find something wrong with it. In the end, it doesn&#8217;t matter. I gots me a life, and 250 comments later, what else is there to say. Hell, if I post the Ghost World thing I&#8217;ll just repeat. This is more than a waste of bandwith now. I just have to respond to hatas.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/09/26/nate-fishereightball-case-mop-up/#comment-23786</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Alex! Go obsessively scan every article and cherry pick out of context sentences that support your side and copy paste them here! That&#039;ll show you care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alex! Go obsessively scan every article and cherry pick out of context sentences that support your side and copy paste them here! That&#8217;ll show you care!</p>
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		<title>By: usrngrx</title>
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		<dc:creator>usrngrx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

I don&#039;t understand.  You care enough to state your opinion that you think the girl is lying, based on some information you say is out there, but then when asked to reference that information, you say you don&#039;t care enough to reference it.

Why don&#039;t you just keep your mouth shut if you you don&#039;t care.  There are people who do care about this topic, on both sides of the fence and they come here to state their opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand.  You care enough to state your opinion that you think the girl is lying, based on some information you say is out there, but then when asked to reference that information, you say you don&#8217;t care enough to reference it.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you just keep your mouth shut if you you don&#8217;t care.  There are people who do care about this topic, on both sides of the fence and they come here to state their opinions.</p>
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