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		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21466</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the artist on GOOD AS LILY says B&amp;N isn’t even selling them in the GN/manga section of bookstores but in YA…&quot;

Why would they be doing that, when all the rest have been in the GN/manga section?

Maybe the artist is confused and doesn&#039;t realize that B&amp;N now has 3 GN/manga sections:  the regular (adult) one, one in YA, and another in kids.  All the MINX books have so far been shelved in Teen Manga.  The display that most of the MINX books have been on for the past month (it&#039;s called out, so all the stores should have it) is in the YA section.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the artist on GOOD AS LILY says B&amp;N isn’t even selling them in the GN/manga section of bookstores but in YA…&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would they be doing that, when all the rest have been in the GN/manga section?</p>
<p>Maybe the artist is confused and doesn&#8217;t realize that B&amp;N now has 3 GN/manga sections:  the regular (adult) one, one in YA, and another in kids.  All the MINX books have so far been shelved in Teen Manga.  The display that most of the MINX books have been on for the past month (it&#8217;s called out, so all the stores should have it) is in the YA section.</p>
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		<title>By: mojo-a-gogo</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21465</link>
		<dc:creator>mojo-a-gogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amazon sales as of 08.22.07

THE PLAIN JANES
#34,515 in Books
#41 in 	 Books &gt; Comics &amp; Graphic Novels &gt; Children&#039;s Comics

RE-GIFTERS
#130,311 in Books

CLUBBING
#349,699 in Books

GOOD AS LILY
#82,918 in Books

final Diamond sales for THE PLAIN JANES in 05.07 = about 7,550

http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=05&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1

final Diamond sales for RE-GIFTERS in 06.07 = about 5,560

http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=06&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1

but that&#039;s just the direct market and supposedly these books are designed to sell well outside of comic book shops.

the artist on GOOD AS LILY says B&amp;N isn&#039;t even selling them in the GN/manga section of bookstores but in YA...

http://sirspamdalot.livejournal.com/34777.html

anyone find some actual sales figures from bookstores yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amazon sales as of 08.22.07</p>
<p>THE PLAIN JANES<br />
#34,515 in Books<br />
#41 in 	 Books &gt; Comics &amp; Graphic Novels &gt; Children&#8217;s Comics</p>
<p>RE-GIFTERS<br />
#130,311 in Books</p>
<p>CLUBBING<br />
#349,699 in Books</p>
<p>GOOD AS LILY<br />
#82,918 in Books</p>
<p>final Diamond sales for THE PLAIN JANES in 05.07 = about 7,550</p>
<p><a href="http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=05&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1" rel="nofollow">http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=05&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1</a></p>
<p>final Diamond sales for RE-GIFTERS in 06.07 = about 5,560</p>
<p><a href="http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=06&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1" rel="nofollow">http://comicbookpage.com/SalesEstimates/ChartDefinitions/ShowMonthChart.php?Chart=TopTradesIndex-Diamond&amp;Year=2007&amp;Month=06&amp;FinalOrderIndicator=1</a></p>
<p>but that&#8217;s just the direct market and supposedly these books are designed to sell well outside of comic book shops.</p>
<p>the artist on GOOD AS LILY says B&amp;N isn&#8217;t even selling them in the GN/manga section of bookstores but in YA&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://sirspamdalot.livejournal.com/34777.html" rel="nofollow">http://sirspamdalot.livejournal.com/34777.html</a></p>
<p>anyone find some actual sales figures from bookstores yet?</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; PR: Vampire Kisses</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21464</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; PR: Vampire Kisses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recently, at The Beat, everyone was talking about what actual teenage girls think of the Minx line. One thing that emerged in comments is that DC isn&#8217;t marketing it enough towards readers of YA works, rather than manga readers. Working with HarperCollins, Tokyopop seems to be going after those YA readers with a fairly safe strategy—take a property that is already popular on its own and produce a graphic novel based on it—same characters, new story. That put the Warriors manga on the charts; now they are gambling that YA novelist Ellen Schreiber can do it again for them. By happy coincidence, the artist for this book, rem, just won Kodansha&#8217;s international manga competition, so they should get an extra boost from that. Details after the cut. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Recently, at The Beat, everyone was talking about what actual teenage girls think of the Minx line. One thing that emerged in comments is that DC isn&#8217;t marketing it enough towards readers of YA works, rather than manga readers. Working with HarperCollins, Tokyopop seems to be going after those YA readers with a fairly safe strategy—take a property that is already popular on its own and produce a graphic novel based on it—same characters, new story. That put the Warriors manga on the charts; now they are gambling that YA novelist Ellen Schreiber can do it again for them. By happy coincidence, the artist for this book, rem, just won Kodansha&#8217;s international manga competition, so they should get an extra boost from that. Details after the cut. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brigid</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21463</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Alexa and Mickle both are on to something. There are more YA lit readers than comics readers, and while the Minx books are shelved in the Teen section of my local Barnes &amp; Noble, they are next to the teen manga, not shelved with the novels. Is DC doing anything to push these with readers who don&#039;t usually read comics? They should be shopping them around to magazines like Seventeen and Cosmo Girl, and if they did, they might bring a whole new cohort of girls into the comics world—girls who aren&#039;t attracted to manga but might still like graphic novels.

Tokyopop seems to be doing a better job in a slightly younger cohort. Their manga version of Warriors made the USA Today Booklist. Of course, that was an adaptation of an alread popular series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Alexa and Mickle both are on to something. There are more YA lit readers than comics readers, and while the Minx books are shelved in the Teen section of my local Barnes &amp; Noble, they are next to the teen manga, not shelved with the novels. Is DC doing anything to push these with readers who don&#8217;t usually read comics? They should be shopping them around to magazines like Seventeen and Cosmo Girl, and if they did, they might bring a whole new cohort of girls into the comics world—girls who aren&#8217;t attracted to manga but might still like graphic novels.</p>
<p>Tokyopop seems to be doing a better job in a slightly younger cohort. Their manga version of Warriors made the USA Today Booklist. Of course, that was an adaptation of an alread popular series.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Keller</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21462</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colleen said:
&lt;i&gt;I know they pushed hard at the comics fans but I had a battle to get a review copy of Janes for Bookslut&lt;/i&gt;

DC, rarely, if ever, gives review copies.  Now, I completely understand them not wanting to give out oodles of DCU freebees to the esablished comics journalism base, but to not send out review copies to &lt;i&gt;non-comics&lt;/i&gt; review sites and publications?   You&#039;d think that would be part of the supposed $250k budget they&#039;ve got to promote  the line.

Well, not quite.  I know of several comic shop owners (my husband included) who got advanced copies of The Plain Janes, but I don&#039;t know of any journalist other than you, Colleen, who managed to get a preview copy.  (DC&#039;s view on review copies is that you know where your LCS is and can go pay for them yourselves -- which works fine for their general DCU stuff.)

(As an aside, I made overtures to DC about getting some review xerox copies of Minx books for Sequential Tart  and nope.  Not happening.  &lt;i&gt;Classic DC 2 steps forward, 1 step back&lt;/i&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleen said:<br />
<i>I know they pushed hard at the comics fans but I had a battle to get a review copy of Janes for Bookslut</i></p>
<p>DC, rarely, if ever, gives review copies.  Now, I completely understand them not wanting to give out oodles of DCU freebees to the esablished comics journalism base, but to not send out review copies to <i>non-comics</i> review sites and publications?   You&#8217;d think that would be part of the supposed $250k budget they&#8217;ve got to promote  the line.</p>
<p>Well, not quite.  I know of several comic shop owners (my husband included) who got advanced copies of The Plain Janes, but I don&#8217;t know of any journalist other than you, Colleen, who managed to get a preview copy.  (DC&#8217;s view on review copies is that you know where your LCS is and can go pay for them yourselves &#8212; which works fine for their general DCU stuff.)</p>
<p>(As an aside, I made overtures to DC about getting some review xerox copies of Minx books for Sequential Tart  and nope.  Not happening.  <i>Classic DC 2 steps forward, 1 step back</i>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Dacey-Tsuei</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21461</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Dacey-Tsuei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience of the Minx books jives with what Brigid and Jennifer are saying: I found these books earnest and dull, like something a well-meaning adult thought would appeal to teenage girls. When I was 15, I wouldn&#039;t have touched these books with a ten-foot pole anymore than I would have been caught dead listening to Bruce Hornsby.

As for Christopher&#039;s suggestion that the Minx books &quot;won’t appeal to manga fans&quot; because &quot;manga has distorted beyond all recognition any concept of what a proper narrative thread is, for young people,&quot; I think that&#039;s a pretty difficult claim to substantiate. My experience teaching college students suggests to me that a lifetime of being plugged in--emails, instant messaging, websurfing, channel surfing--has a far more profound impact on students&#039; ability to read and write than an intense love affair with &lt;i&gt;Naruto&lt;/i&gt;.

Frankly, I doubt there&#039;d even be a Minx line if manga hadn&#039;t proven so popular with teenage girls. I just wish DC was as aggressive in promoting CMX&#039;s girl-friendly series as it has been for &lt;i&gt;P.L.A.I.N. Janes&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Clubbing.&lt;/i&gt; I would have adored &lt;i&gt;Emma&lt;/i&gt; when I was in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience of the Minx books jives with what Brigid and Jennifer are saying: I found these books earnest and dull, like something a well-meaning adult thought would appeal to teenage girls. When I was 15, I wouldn&#8217;t have touched these books with a ten-foot pole anymore than I would have been caught dead listening to Bruce Hornsby.</p>
<p>As for Christopher&#8217;s suggestion that the Minx books &#8220;won’t appeal to manga fans&#8221; because &#8220;manga has distorted beyond all recognition any concept of what a proper narrative thread is, for young people,&#8221; I think that&#8217;s a pretty difficult claim to substantiate. My experience teaching college students suggests to me that a lifetime of being plugged in&#8211;emails, instant messaging, websurfing, channel surfing&#8211;has a far more profound impact on students&#8217; ability to read and write than an intense love affair with <i>Naruto</i>.</p>
<p>Frankly, I doubt there&#8217;d even be a Minx line if manga hadn&#8217;t proven so popular with teenage girls. I just wish DC was as aggressive in promoting CMX&#8217;s girl-friendly series as it has been for <i>P.L.A.I.N. Janes</i> and <i>Clubbing.</i> I would have adored <i>Emma</i> when I was in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickle</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll need to check the actual numbers to be sure, but I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve sold hardly any at all.  So they don&#039;t seem to be appealing to the girls that come into the bookstores to buy their manga/teenlit, which I always got the impression was part of the idea.

I think most browsers aren&#039;t sure what to make of them.  And most manga readers are put off by there only being 1 book for each story.

Kids and teens love series.  They have to read fiction all the time for homework, and finding a series they like means a couple months of being able to read something they know they will like, instead of having to go searching for a new author/series every few weeks or so.  Or being forced to read something they don&#039;t like on top of all the other assigned reading they get.  Plus, they aren&#039;t in control of their own time or money quite often, so being able to quickly pick up a book - or easily tell their parents to pick it up for them - is always a plus.

The MINX line consists of one book stories, with different authors and artists for each story.  On top of all that, the covers are drastically different, so their isn&#039;t much to brand them as a line except for their unusual size and shape.

I&#039;m wondering if a lot of teens don&#039;t see them as too big of a risk for too little of a payoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll need to check the actual numbers to be sure, but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve sold hardly any at all.  So they don&#8217;t seem to be appealing to the girls that come into the bookstores to buy their manga/teenlit, which I always got the impression was part of the idea.</p>
<p>I think most browsers aren&#8217;t sure what to make of them.  And most manga readers are put off by there only being 1 book for each story.</p>
<p>Kids and teens love series.  They have to read fiction all the time for homework, and finding a series they like means a couple months of being able to read something they know they will like, instead of having to go searching for a new author/series every few weeks or so.  Or being forced to read something they don&#8217;t like on top of all the other assigned reading they get.  Plus, they aren&#8217;t in control of their own time or money quite often, so being able to quickly pick up a book &#8211; or easily tell their parents to pick it up for them &#8211; is always a plus.</p>
<p>The MINX line consists of one book stories, with different authors and artists for each story.  On top of all that, the covers are drastically different, so their isn&#8217;t much to brand them as a line except for their unusual size and shape.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if a lot of teens don&#8217;t see them as too big of a risk for too little of a payoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexa</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21459</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m a 20-year-old female, but I was 19 when the Minx line was announced (and 18 when I first heard about the Plain Janes, as Cecil &quot;let it slip&quot; at a book signing).  So, I was biased to like this line from the beginning, simply because I&#039;ve been a fan of Cecil&#039;s since her first novel.  I loved the Plain Janes, both as a Cecil book and a comic, and frankly I would have killed for a line like this when I was first getting in to comics at 16.

Here&#039;s the problem: the Minx target audience is YA-lit readers, but the more likely audience is manga readers.  While there is crossover between these two groups, there are still more girls who read YA-lit exclusively than read manga at all (no statistics for this, just experience).  And we&#039;re seeing that the line doesn&#039;t really appeal to manga readers (and to be quite honest, what little manga I have read was still much better than all the Minx books, even the Janes)  So right now I feel that the girls most likely to read Minx books are girls who have otaku friends who say &quot;If there&#039;s not any manga that appeals to you, I&#039;ve heard of an line of American comics you might like.&quot;  So yeah, not a huge audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m a 20-year-old female, but I was 19 when the Minx line was announced (and 18 when I first heard about the Plain Janes, as Cecil &#8220;let it slip&#8221; at a book signing).  So, I was biased to like this line from the beginning, simply because I&#8217;ve been a fan of Cecil&#8217;s since her first novel.  I loved the Plain Janes, both as a Cecil book and a comic, and frankly I would have killed for a line like this when I was first getting in to comics at 16.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the problem: the Minx target audience is YA-lit readers, but the more likely audience is manga readers.  While there is crossover between these two groups, there are still more girls who read YA-lit exclusively than read manga at all (no statistics for this, just experience).  And we&#8217;re seeing that the line doesn&#8217;t really appeal to manga readers (and to be quite honest, what little manga I have read was still much better than all the Minx books, even the Janes)  So right now I feel that the girls most likely to read Minx books are girls who have otaku friends who say &#8220;If there&#8217;s not any manga that appeals to you, I&#8217;ve heard of an line of American comics you might like.&#8221;  So yeah, not a huge audience.</p>
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		<title>By: AHR</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21458</link>
		<dc:creator>AHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a 23 year old girl (woman, i guess you might say).  I really enjoyed the Plain Janes, which surprised me since I typically find stories of upper-middle class teen angst a little hard to stomach.  But it zigged several times when I thought it would zag - the idea of a girl having a hard time breaking into an UNpopular clique was an interesting twist on a formula, and one that I thought rang very true.  The main reason I picked it up in the first place was because I wanted to see what kind of female writers Minx was hiring.  Little did I know Cecil was the ONLY female writer Minx was hiring.  Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a 23 year old girl (woman, i guess you might say).  I really enjoyed the Plain Janes, which surprised me since I typically find stories of upper-middle class teen angst a little hard to stomach.  But it zigged several times when I thought it would zag &#8211; the idea of a girl having a hard time breaking into an UNpopular clique was an interesting twist on a formula, and one that I thought rang very true.  The main reason I picked it up in the first place was because I wanted to see what kind of female writers Minx was hiring.  Little did I know Cecil was the ONLY female writer Minx was hiring.  Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21457</link>
		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should say that I did have to shut my brain off to read Plain Janes, and the weird &quot;Hi I&#039;m gay&quot; bit was reeeally off-putting. I think that&#039;s just the author not being used to showing something instead of telling it that made it seem so one-dimensional, as someone put it above.

I&#039;d probably give my friends Fortune &amp; Glory and Scott Pilgrim to give an example of good comic books...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should say that I did have to shut my brain off to read Plain Janes, and the weird &#8220;Hi I&#8217;m gay&#8221; bit was reeeally off-putting. I think that&#8217;s just the author not being used to showing something instead of telling it that made it seem so one-dimensional, as someone put it above.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d probably give my friends Fortune &amp; Glory and Scott Pilgrim to give an example of good comic books&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Moonlight</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21456</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Moonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are plenty of non-delinquent teenagers out there who aren’t going to identify very closely with the cast of PLAIN JANES.&quot;

Never said there wouldn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are plenty of non-delinquent teenagers out there who aren’t going to identify very closely with the cast of PLAIN JANES.&#8221;</p>
<p>Never said there wouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21455</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I certainly don’t think that all teenagers are delinquents (and those who do really, REALLY PISS ME OFF TO NO END) who only think that destructive behavior is the life. &quot;

There&#039;s a false dichotomy if ever I saw one.  There are plenty of non-delinquent teenagers out there who aren&#039;t going to identify very closely with the cast of PLAIN JANES.  Even the book itself regards its characters as outside the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I certainly don’t think that all teenagers are delinquents (and those who do really, REALLY PISS ME OFF TO NO END) who only think that destructive behavior is the life. &#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a false dichotomy if ever I saw one.  There are plenty of non-delinquent teenagers out there who aren&#8217;t going to identify very closely with the cast of PLAIN JANES.  Even the book itself regards its characters as outside the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Moonlight</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21454</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Moonlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave Plane Janes to a 16 girl who is a student of mine and she loved it. No, it&#039;s not a main stream book. I think that it could only be appreciated by someone who is an older teen (in most but not all cases) because it&#039;s written for those who want to make more out of what there is in their lives. The Janes offers that. It won&#039;t appeal to manga fans because (and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll catch Hell for this) manga has distorted beyond all recognition any concept of what a proper narrative thread is, for young people. All of my student who love manga continue to draw pictures of pretty people with big eyes just standing there, even what they&#039;re &quot;telling a story.&quot; Could the minx line be better? Of course it could. Are the characters not cool? For now, I don&#039;t know, but in the 90&#039;s they would have been. Does that matter? I certainly don&#039;t think that all teenagers are delinquents (and those who do really, REALLY PISS ME OFF TO NO END) who only think that destructive behavior is the life. That&#039;s just what movies and TV tell us all. Don&#039;t a lot of teenage girls feel like outsiders? Don&#039;t they feel a need to be something more? Wont books with substance and sincerity always be uncool until someone makes it cool? Lets give them some time to come into their own. It would seem to me that they are on the right track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave Plane Janes to a 16 girl who is a student of mine and she loved it. No, it&#8217;s not a main stream book. I think that it could only be appreciated by someone who is an older teen (in most but not all cases) because it&#8217;s written for those who want to make more out of what there is in their lives. The Janes offers that. It won&#8217;t appeal to manga fans because (and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll catch Hell for this) manga has distorted beyond all recognition any concept of what a proper narrative thread is, for young people. All of my student who love manga continue to draw pictures of pretty people with big eyes just standing there, even what they&#8217;re &#8220;telling a story.&#8221; Could the minx line be better? Of course it could. Are the characters not cool? For now, I don&#8217;t know, but in the 90&#8217;s they would have been. Does that matter? I certainly don&#8217;t think that all teenagers are delinquents (and those who do really, REALLY PISS ME OFF TO NO END) who only think that destructive behavior is the life. That&#8217;s just what movies and TV tell us all. Don&#8217;t a lot of teenage girls feel like outsiders? Don&#8217;t they feel a need to be something more? Wont books with substance and sincerity always be uncool until someone makes it cool? Lets give them some time to come into their own. It would seem to me that they are on the right track.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21453</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minx is an outreach project, so by definition, any reviews from the established comics readership are pretty much irrelevant.  But...

&quot;Direct quote from my 13-year-old: “The characters were one-dimensional. They were tacky and they just… weren’t… cool.” Also, both gils thought the plot was kind of dumb.&quot;

I think that&#039;s entirely fair.  Most of the characters in PLAIN JANES *are* one-dimensional, and in particular, only one of the title characters can honestly be described as rounded.  And the whole theme of the book - nerdy outsiders achieve self-actualisation through forms of street art that are vaguely conceptual and definitely, absolutely, positively don&#039;t involve graffiti - isn&#039;t exactly an obvious winner with a mainstream teenage audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minx is an outreach project, so by definition, any reviews from the established comics readership are pretty much irrelevant.  But&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Direct quote from my 13-year-old: “The characters were one-dimensional. They were tacky and they just… weren’t… cool.” Also, both gils thought the plot was kind of dumb.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s entirely fair.  Most of the characters in PLAIN JANES *are* one-dimensional, and in particular, only one of the title characters can honestly be described as rounded.  And the whole theme of the book &#8211; nerdy outsiders achieve self-actualisation through forms of street art that are vaguely conceptual and definitely, absolutely, positively don&#8217;t involve graffiti &#8211; isn&#8217;t exactly an obvious winner with a mainstream teenage audience.</p>
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		<title>By: pete bangs</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/08/16/questions-about-minx-dc/#comment-21452</link>
		<dc:creator>pete bangs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I liked both Plain Janes and Regifters, the two Minx books I&#039;ve read so far.  I bought them initially for my daughter, just turned six, to read when she&#039;s a little older.  she likes comics and I&#039;m trying to build a small library of things for her to move on to once she gets past Scooby Doo and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I liked both Plain Janes and Regifters, the two Minx books I&#8217;ve read so far.  I bought them initially for my daughter, just turned six, to read when she&#8217;s a little older.  she likes comics and I&#8217;m trying to build a small library of things for her to move on to once she gets past Scooby Doo and the like.</p>
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