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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: WORK FOR HIRE IS BAD!!!</title>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19158</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free Mike Strang:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Mike Strang:)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19157</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this instance, it doesn&#039;t sound like Mr. Stang&#039;s situation falls completely under the work-for-hire definition...or at the very least, there&#039;s some wiggle room.

I suggest he go ahead and register his creations and characters with the copyright office. Couldn&#039;t hurt and might help.

An FYI

For you published or aspiring novelists out there who are doing or considering writing media tie-ins...

Work-for-hire does NOT cover novels. They are outside the criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this instance, it doesn&#8217;t sound like Mr. Stang&#8217;s situation falls completely under the work-for-hire definition&#8230;or at the very least, there&#8217;s some wiggle room.</p>
<p>I suggest he go ahead and register his creations and characters with the copyright office. Couldn&#8217;t hurt and might help.</p>
<p>An FYI</p>
<p>For you published or aspiring novelists out there who are doing or considering writing media tie-ins&#8230;</p>
<p>Work-for-hire does NOT cover novels. They are outside the criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19156</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Platinum&#039;s shenanigans continue I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Platinum&#8217;s shenanigans continue I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie J</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19155</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to know is, does Platinum still have the rocks to go on with the book without strand? It sounds like an invitation for worse press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is, does Platinum still have the rocks to go on with the book without strand? It sounds like an invitation for worse press.</p>
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		<title>By: ASH</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19154</link>
		<dc:creator>ASH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, if you want to work in the &quot;comics business&quot;, then you have to accept both words as being equal. If you want to do &quot;comics&quot;, then hey--knock yourself out. Write &#039;em in your spare time, draw &#039;em in your basement, and show &#039;em to your friends.

But if you want to work in the comics &quot;business&quot;, then you&#039;ve got to know the business, and not complain about it when you don&#039;t. This guy acts like he didn&#039;t know what a work-for-hire contract was, thinks that Platinum Studios is the only one who uses them, didn&#039;t read his own contract that he signed and then complains that he didn&#039;t get the deal he wanted. (Of course, he had no complaints when he took their money.)

Would you expect that Platinum would had over money to you without reading your pitch or seeing your artwork? Then why would you hand over your creation to them without reading their contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, if you want to work in the &#8220;comics business&#8221;, then you have to accept both words as being equal. If you want to do &#8220;comics&#8221;, then hey&#8211;knock yourself out. Write &#8216;em in your spare time, draw &#8216;em in your basement, and show &#8216;em to your friends.</p>
<p>But if you want to work in the comics &#8220;business&#8221;, then you&#8217;ve got to know the business, and not complain about it when you don&#8217;t. This guy acts like he didn&#8217;t know what a work-for-hire contract was, thinks that Platinum Studios is the only one who uses them, didn&#8217;t read his own contract that he signed and then complains that he didn&#8217;t get the deal he wanted. (Of course, he had no complaints when he took their money.)</p>
<p>Would you expect that Platinum would had over money to you without reading your pitch or seeing your artwork? Then why would you hand over your creation to them without reading their contract?</p>
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		<title>By: NeilM</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19153</link>
		<dc:creator>NeilM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like all Strang was trying to do was vent his frustration with being bent over by a large corporation.  His blog is a long story/cautionary tale for new and upcoming artists/writer/creators, it sounded like he was just trying to get the word out there that people can get screwed.  I mean the poor guy signed a contract, in which he was under the assumption that he would oversee his creation till the day it was published.  It&#039;s over and done with.  He vented about his anger and now hes going in another direction.  Don&#039;t pick on him for wanting to let his anger out on blogging website.  I&#039;m sure many of you have had your dreams crushed at one point, and did you not have to retreat to your corner to build your spirits back up?  This probably isn&#039;t the last we will see of him.  And look at some publicity he has now!  Just try to look on the bright side... and maybe get a plug in or two. Maybe this blog will be stumbled upon by another novice creator and it will save them some headache.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like all Strang was trying to do was vent his frustration with being bent over by a large corporation.  His blog is a long story/cautionary tale for new and upcoming artists/writer/creators, it sounded like he was just trying to get the word out there that people can get screwed.  I mean the poor guy signed a contract, in which he was under the assumption that he would oversee his creation till the day it was published.  It&#8217;s over and done with.  He vented about his anger and now hes going in another direction.  Don&#8217;t pick on him for wanting to let his anger out on blogging website.  I&#8217;m sure many of you have had your dreams crushed at one point, and did you not have to retreat to your corner to build your spirits back up?  This probably isn&#8217;t the last we will see of him.  And look at some publicity he has now!  Just try to look on the bright side&#8230; and maybe get a plug in or two. Maybe this blog will be stumbled upon by another novice creator and it will save them some headache.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Day for Comic Movie News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19152</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Day for Comic Movie News &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In news that no one should really care about, Cowboys vs. Aliens has been picked up by DreamWorks and Universal. I still remember that whole debacle about Platinum Studios paying comic shops to order the graphic novel in bulk just so they could claim it was a &#8220;best-selling&#8221; book. Which is even funnier considering the bad press Platinum got lately about not paying anyone else. And really, cowboys versus aliens? How is that even a fair fight? Who would actually pay to see this? And why am I still writing about it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In news that no one should really care about, Cowboys vs. Aliens has been picked up by DreamWorks and Universal. I still remember that whole debacle about Platinum Studios paying comic shops to order the graphic novel in bulk just so they could claim it was a &#8220;best-selling&#8221; book. Which is even funnier considering the bad press Platinum got lately about not paying anyone else. And really, cowboys versus aliens? How is that even a fair fight? Who would actually pay to see this? And why am I still writing about it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19151</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raff, unless you have inside knowledge of Strang&#039;s contract...

Contracts can be changed from one creator to another. Maybe Platinum simplified their contract since then, maybe not. No accusation here, just comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raff, unless you have inside knowledge of Strang&#8217;s contract&#8230;</p>
<p>Contracts can be changed from one creator to another. Maybe Platinum simplified their contract since then, maybe not. No accusation here, just comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Koblish</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19150</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Koblish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for Platinum and I have nothing but good things to say about them - We all just put out the first issue of The Weapon, and it was a great experience-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for Platinum and I have nothing but good things to say about them &#8211; We all just put out the first issue of The Weapon, and it was a great experience-</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thursday early news</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19149</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thursday early news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Curious about copyright? The Library of Congress sums up the basis in a manga-styled, slighly animated comic. It&#8217;s surprisingly cute and well done. If you want to take it to the next level, Heidi MacDonald has some advice for creators. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Curious about copyright? The Library of Congress sums up the basis in a manga-styled, slighly animated comic. It&#8217;s surprisingly cute and well done. If you want to take it to the next level, Heidi MacDonald has some advice for creators. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19148</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free Mike Strang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Mike Strang!</p>
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		<title>By: Raff</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19147</link>
		<dc:creator>Raff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need a lawyer to understand the Platinum contract.  It&#039;s written in plain enough english.  He just didn&#039;t bother to read the thing.  The part about being replaced as the writer of your own creation was clear as day -shocking but clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need a lawyer to understand the Platinum contract.  It&#8217;s written in plain enough english.  He just didn&#8217;t bother to read the thing.  The part about being replaced as the writer of your own creation was clear as day -shocking but clear.</p>
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		<title>By: dave roman</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19146</link>
		<dc:creator>dave roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can’t help but get attached if you put any love or effort into it.

Telling a creator not to get attached to a project because of what the contract says is like promoting abstinence to teenagers.

Sometimes art is made with your heart not your head.

But you should still read contracts and wear condoms!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can’t help but get attached if you put any love or effort into it.</p>
<p>Telling a creator not to get attached to a project because of what the contract says is like promoting abstinence to teenagers.</p>
<p>Sometimes art is made with your heart not your head.</p>
<p>But you should still read contracts and wear condoms!</p>
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		<title>By: CBrown</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19145</link>
		<dc:creator>CBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 03:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the collective comics blogosphere is kicking this guy Strang while he&#039;s down I think it&#039;s because even though he himself admits he was a naive rube, it&#039;s still a bit jaw-dropping to see people signing away their creations without knowing what that means.

If you want to sign away your creation knowing the ramifications, that&#039;s your biz. But, you know, I first read about what happened to Siegel and Shuster when I was, like, 11 years old (I&#039;m 35 now). Then there was the fight over Kirby getting his artwork returned, Alan Moore disowning Watchmen over his deal with DC, Marv Wolfman&#039;s unsuccessful lawsuit over Blade, and so on and so on. It&#039;s hard to believe that anyone who&#039;s serious about comics doesn&#039;t have a rudimentary understanding of this stuff, even if all they&#039;ve read was The Adventures of Kavalier and Klay! Even if you&#039;re not a lawyer, this history should make you aware enough to know what to look out for. It&#039;s NOT an iron-clad rule that you get shafted in your first contract! It does happen a lot because young artists&#039; enthusiasm and inexperience often outweighs their business sense, but there&#039;s nothing that makes getting screwed (or LETTING yourself GET screwed) inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the collective comics blogosphere is kicking this guy Strang while he&#8217;s down I think it&#8217;s because even though he himself admits he was a naive rube, it&#8217;s still a bit jaw-dropping to see people signing away their creations without knowing what that means.</p>
<p>If you want to sign away your creation knowing the ramifications, that&#8217;s your biz. But, you know, I first read about what happened to Siegel and Shuster when I was, like, 11 years old (I&#8217;m 35 now). Then there was the fight over Kirby getting his artwork returned, Alan Moore disowning Watchmen over his deal with DC, Marv Wolfman&#8217;s unsuccessful lawsuit over Blade, and so on and so on. It&#8217;s hard to believe that anyone who&#8217;s serious about comics doesn&#8217;t have a rudimentary understanding of this stuff, even if all they&#8217;ve read was The Adventures of Kavalier and Klay! Even if you&#8217;re not a lawyer, this history should make you aware enough to know what to look out for. It&#8217;s NOT an iron-clad rule that you get shafted in your first contract! It does happen a lot because young artists&#8217; enthusiasm and inexperience often outweighs their business sense, but there&#8217;s nothing that makes getting screwed (or LETTING yourself GET screwed) inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/20/breaking-work-for-hire-is-bad/#comment-19144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heidi, you rock!

Thanks for the thoughtful outline I no doubt will save as a nice resource. I am so sad to hear this happen time and again and really the comic community owes itself to better protect their artistic voyage and rep. With POD readily available, there&#039;s little reason for suspect publisher&#039;s to get away with this kind of crap in the numbers they have. Have at thee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heidi, you rock!</p>
<p>Thanks for the thoughtful outline I no doubt will save as a nice resource. I am so sad to hear this happen time and again and really the comic community owes itself to better protect their artistic voyage and rep. With POD readily available, there&#8217;s little reason for suspect publisher&#8217;s to get away with this kind of crap in the numbers they have. Have at thee.</p>
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