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	<title>Comments on: Shooter and Valiant are&#8230;back?</title>
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		<title>By: manningfan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18334</link>
		<dc:creator>manningfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, and to think, Shooter is the man. He has done alot for comics, why is he untalented now? Byrne is awesome too, but damn man, a little over the top there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, and to think, Shooter is the man. He has done alot for comics, why is he untalented now? Byrne is awesome too, but damn man, a little over the top there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod Odom</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18333</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod Odom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good news for John Byrne. If a no talent asshole like Shooter can be welcomed back to comics with open arms, the return of Byrne is right around the corner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good news for John Byrne. If a no talent asshole like Shooter can be welcomed back to comics with open arms, the return of Byrne is right around the corner!</p>
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		<title>By: manningfan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18332</link>
		<dc:creator>manningfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interresting comments about the twentyfive cent bin, especially since most pre unity books go for six bucks or more sirs. This is great news, and fans of comics that have never read Valiant stuff should pick this up as Harbinger was an amazing read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interresting comments about the twentyfive cent bin, especially since most pre unity books go for six bucks or more sirs. This is great news, and fans of comics that have never read Valiant stuff should pick this up as Harbinger was an amazing read.</p>
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		<title>By: manningfan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18331</link>
		<dc:creator>manningfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interresting comments about the twentyfive cent bin, especially since most pre unity books go for six bucks or more sirs. This is great news, and fans of comics that have never read Valiant stuff should pick this up as Harbinger was an amazing read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interresting comments about the twentyfive cent bin, especially since most pre unity books go for six bucks or more sirs. This is great news, and fans of comics that have never read Valiant stuff should pick this up as Harbinger was an amazing read.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18330</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news. I&#039;m a big fan and can not wait to get one of my fave stories in a nice collection, and with a new story by Jim Shooter no less.

You guys have some interesting notions about Valiant that I can not help but correct:)

1 - Rodney, Harbinger #1 alone sells for $30 on ebay and collections are usually bought because the reader wants everything in one nicely produced book that they can put up on the shelf (I know I can&#039;t wait to do just that).

2 - Jonathan, actually Valiant has NEVER published a multiple or variant cover. They did gold logo books that they gave away free to fans for promoting Valiant and about 4 books had chromium covers which were marketing ploys to get people excited but they kept the covers for big event books and I always felt it worked with the characters since they were metal based characters (X-O Manowar #0, Bloodshot #0 and #1 and Turok #1). Valiant books were worth hundreds of dollars (never $500 as for any one book as far as I remember, that shop was trying to rip you off) because they were great stories that people wanted to read, were unavailable in a cheaper format at the time and had small print runs....simple supply and demand. Once they started producing soft cover trades the prices dropped because people could read the stories in a cheap format.

Bill - I always thought ARCHER &amp; ARMSTRONG, HARBINGER, BLOODSHOT and SHADOWMAN were some of the best titles in comics but that&#039;s just me. NINJAK was damn cool too but I was never into Turok or Magnus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news. I&#8217;m a big fan and can not wait to get one of my fave stories in a nice collection, and with a new story by Jim Shooter no less.</p>
<p>You guys have some interesting notions about Valiant that I can not help but correct:)</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Rodney, Harbinger #1 alone sells for $30 on ebay and collections are usually bought because the reader wants everything in one nicely produced book that they can put up on the shelf (I know I can&#8217;t wait to do just that).</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Jonathan, actually Valiant has NEVER published a multiple or variant cover. They did gold logo books that they gave away free to fans for promoting Valiant and about 4 books had chromium covers which were marketing ploys to get people excited but they kept the covers for big event books and I always felt it worked with the characters since they were metal based characters (X-O Manowar #0, Bloodshot #0 and #1 and Turok #1). Valiant books were worth hundreds of dollars (never $500 as for any one book as far as I remember, that shop was trying to rip you off) because they were great stories that people wanted to read, were unavailable in a cheaper format at the time and had small print runs&#8230;.simple supply and demand. Once they started producing soft cover trades the prices dropped because people could read the stories in a cheap format.</p>
<p>Bill &#8211; I always thought ARCHER &amp; ARMSTRONG, HARBINGER, BLOODSHOT and SHADOWMAN were some of the best titles in comics but that&#8217;s just me. NINJAK was damn cool too but I was never into Turok or Magnus.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Stroh</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18329</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Stroh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 03:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check here for more info:

http://valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15060</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check here for more info:</p>
<p><a href="http://valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15060" rel="nofollow">http://valiantfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15060</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McEvoy</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18328</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick McEvoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s where tastes differ, Bill - I still think Archer and Armstrong was one of the best titles of the era.  Go figure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s where tastes differ, Bill &#8211; I still think Archer and Armstrong was one of the best titles of the era.  Go figure!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18327</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really loved the first issues of Valiant&#039;s MAGNUS, DR. SOLAR, TUROK and NINJAK, but I really thought the company went down with silly titles like ARCHER &amp; ARMSTRONG (reminds me of an 80&#039;s Stephen J. Cannell TV show), HARBINGER, BLOODSHOT and SHADOWMAN.

Collect the good stuff and ditch the rest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really loved the first issues of Valiant&#8217;s MAGNUS, DR. SOLAR, TUROK and NINJAK, but I really thought the company went down with silly titles like ARCHER &amp; ARMSTRONG (reminds me of an 80&#8217;s Stephen J. Cannell TV show), HARBINGER, BLOODSHOT and SHADOWMAN.</p>
<p>Collect the good stuff and ditch the rest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s definitely not fair but I blame Valiant for the mid 90&#039;s collapse of comics.  It&#039;s just that I remember them more than any other publisher putting out multiple covers, hard to find #0&#039;s, and so on.  The biggest impression I have of them was seeing a handful of Valiant books at the baseball card shop, one of which was selling for over $500.

Again, not their fault entirely, but they left the worst impression on me and hence:  I blame *you*, Valiant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s definitely not fair but I blame Valiant for the mid 90&#8217;s collapse of comics.  It&#8217;s just that I remember them more than any other publisher putting out multiple covers, hard to find #0&#8217;s, and so on.  The biggest impression I have of them was seeing a handful of Valiant books at the baseball card shop, one of which was selling for over $500.</p>
<p>Again, not their fault entirely, but they left the worst impression on me and hence:  I blame *you*, Valiant!</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney wall</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18325</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody actually want &quot;deluxe hardcover&quot; collections of comics that can be found in any 25 cent bin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody actually want &#8220;deluxe hardcover&#8221; collections of comics that can be found in any 25 cent bin?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Flack</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18324</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Flack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I recall Shooter was heavily promoting some comic at the NY Comic-Con… It was called The Seven or something… Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.&quot;

It was called &quot;The Seven&quot;, but the logo really looked like it said &quot;The Semen.&quot;

-Steve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I recall Shooter was heavily promoting some comic at the NY Comic-Con… It was called The Seven or something… Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was called &#8220;The Seven&#8221;, but the logo really looked like it said &#8220;The Semen.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18323</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the trade market growing, it seems like a great idea to come back and start releasing collected editions of old material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the trade market growing, it seems like a great idea to come back and start releasing collected editions of old material.</p>
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		<title>By: John Green</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18322</link>
		<dc:creator>John Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall Shooter was heavily promoting some comic at the NY Comic-Con... It was called The Seven or something... Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall Shooter was heavily promoting some comic at the NY Comic-Con&#8230; It was called The Seven or something&#8230; Not sure if that has anything to do with anything.</p>
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		<title>By: CapVsBats</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/06/07/shooter-and-valiant-areback/#comment-18321</link>
		<dc:creator>CapVsBats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see Jim Shooter getting the work! Comics Legend is right - the man began writing professionally at what, 13?

I&#039;ll be interested to see if he&#039;s involved in any other extent with the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see Jim Shooter getting the work! Comics Legend is right &#8211; the man began writing professionally at what, 13?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be interested to see if he&#8217;s involved in any other extent with the company.</p>
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