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By: Joe Quesada weighs in on Marvel’s tentacle rape porn for 9-year olds | Bent Corner

Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:50:53 +0000

[...] Heidi MacDonald from The Beat has been kind enough to post a portion of the weekly question and answer session between comic book website Newsarama and Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada. [...]

By: Robert Jones, Jr.

Robert Jones, Jr. — Wed, 30 May 2007 18:12:00 +0000

“Bigots always have the same modus operandi. First, they declare you inferior; then they systematically make it illegal for you to prove you’re not. In their hearts, they know you’re not inferior- they just want a huge slice of the pie.”

-Mavis Leno

By: Me, myself, and I...

Me, myself, and I... — Tue, 29 May 2007 15:07:28 +0000

I’d say the difference of comic books to TV, Movies, ect… is that comic actively use kids as their defense… it’s not sexually explicit, it’s a kid’s book.

By: Wraith

Wraith — Mon, 28 May 2007 19:00:52 +0000

Yep, they do have tentacles. Looks like I was wrong.

It still does’nt change the fact that the HFH cover is still perverted.

By: Bentcorner

Bentcorner — Mon, 28 May 2007 12:54:58 +0000

Big Al, do Brood tentacles normally secrete white goo on the bare breasts of their victims?

By: Big Al

Big Al — Mon, 28 May 2007 12:32:42 +0000

The Brood do have tentacles. Few artist tend to not draw them for whatever reason, but it’s always been a part of their character design. For proof, the Wikipedia entry on the Brood features a cover of Uncanny X-Men #166 whcih is a 1983 comic, and it shows a Brood grabbing Colossus arms with its tentacles, so its clear that it isn’t a recent development.

By: Rich Johnston

Rich Johnston — Mon, 28 May 2007 08:32:48 +0000

Paul… from the OH

“Legs: Six, forelegs can be used as tentacles”

By: Luigi Siviero

Luigi Siviero — Mon, 28 May 2007 07:01:55 +0000

This is more pornographic and better drawn:
http://www.funnygarbage.com/flog/uploads/marston3.jpg

I can’t understand what’s wrong with the cover of h4h.

By: Lea

Lea — Mon, 28 May 2007 00:54:32 +0000

On the subject of the H4H cover, I did a remix where I changed the expressions, got the girl’s clothes back on (did anyone else notice that Misty’s pants had been entirly ripped away on her right side from hip to public bone?), took out the bleeding cuts, and for fun, fixed Misty’s race reassigment, her hair, and got the dumb nekomimi bell off Black Cat’s neck.

Here you go:
http://divalea.livejournal.com/456637.html

It is, as I’ve said elsewhere, still questionable, would still be inappropriate for a book for ages 9 and up, but would be in keeping with the camp T&A of H4H so far.
The exercize was to see what the cover conveyed by changed the most obviously objectionable elements: the expressions, the torn-off or opened clothes, the tentacle touching and sliding up (or down) Felicia’s breast, the bleeding wounds, and the money shot on Felicia’s cleavage.

The only true fix for this cover is to junk it entirely. (And maybe have Joe get a reprimand from whoever his boss is, because this cover is just plain nasty.)

By: Bent Corner » Blog Archive » Joe Quesada weighs in on Marvel’s tentacle rape porn for 9-year olds

Sun, 27 May 2007 23:54:18 +0000

[...] Heidi MacDonald from The Beat has been kind enough to post a portion of the weekly question and answer session between comic book website Newsarama and Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada. [...]

By: Aldora

Aldora — Sun, 27 May 2007 23:22:12 +0000

So the best way to communicate that the female protagonists “kick major ass” is to tie them up, display that their breasts have no nipples, and then put some writhing slimy tentacles around them?

… gee, I sure thought that was a prototypical damsel in distress, not a kickass role model superheroine.

Thanks for reminding me why I gave up on comics.

By: Sanctimonious Whelp

Sanctimonious Whelp — Sun, 27 May 2007 22:10:58 +0000

Mike said:
“You know where else you can find overt sexuality that can be seen as denigrating and demeaning and border-line pornographic? TV shows. Oh, and movies. Music videos. In the clubs. On the street. Advertising.”

Your point? Just because people are unhappy with the H4H cover doesn’t mean that they’re not also fighting against sexism in other media.

And before anyone brings up the ‘but there are WORSE forms of sexism out there than silly comic covers!’: I know. But that doesn’t make sexism in silly comic covers okay.

Henrik J said,
“This really is a slow news week. The fact that some people seem to think that tentacle porn is common knowledge shows more about the internet than it does Joe”

If the editor-in-chief of an extremely large, successful, long-running comics company is COMPLETELY UNAWARE of manga culture and Japan’s penchant for tentacle rape porn, then… That’s just dumb. No-one can be that naive, least of all a businessman whose job involves knowing all about comics.

By: Paul O'Brien

Paul O'Brien — Sun, 27 May 2007 21:44:43 +0000

“So Mr. Quesada knows nothing about the manga his company publishes?”

Marvel don’t publish any manga. (But in a broader sense, when manga has been one of the dominant rising trends in North America for years, you really would expect Marvel’s editor-in-chief to have at least a passing familiarity with it.)

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 27 May 2007 19:59:15 +0000

You know where else you can find overt sexuality that can be seen as denigrating and demeaning and border-line pornographic? TV shows. Oh, and movies. Music videos. In the clubs. On the street. Advertising.

But yeah, Marvel comics is broken.

By: Torsten Adair

Torsten Adair — Sun, 27 May 2007 19:31:57 +0000

So Mr. Quesada knows nothing about the manga his company publishes?
Shouldn’t the Editor-in-chief of the largest comics publisher in the United States be knowledgeable about ALL aspects of comicbooks and comicstrips?
otherwise you won’t remain the biggest for long…