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	<title>Comments on: More on Bookscan</title>
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		<title>By: Naranj</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12962</link>
		<dc:creator>Naranj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of you have a copy of Hibb&#039;s raw data? The link he posted is broken, and he seems unwilling to re-upload the sheet.

Thanks, all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of you have a copy of Hibb&#8217;s raw data? The link he posted is broken, and he seems unwilling to re-upload the sheet.</p>
<p>Thanks, all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagwan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12961</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something else to keep in mind is that Bookscan tracks sales, not orders. That means there could be 20,000 copies of American Born Chinese sitting on shelves in bookstores, waiting for someone to buy them. I have it in stock, BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else to keep in mind is that Bookscan tracks sales, not orders. That means there could be 20,000 copies of American Born Chinese sitting on shelves in bookstores, waiting for someone to buy them. I have it in stock, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay between the lines</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12960</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Stay between the lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heidi has more about Bookscan at The Beat, and Ali Kokmen and Queenie Chan both give their takes in comments, so you know it&#8217;s worth a click. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Heidi has more about Bookscan at The Beat, and Ali Kokmen and Queenie Chan both give their takes in comments, so you know it&#8217;s worth a click. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ali T. Kokmen</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12959</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali T. Kokmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; I believe that book fairs don’t count in the BookScan list
&gt; either… am I right?

I believe you are right. Sales to book fairs and to book clubs (the Book-of-the-Month club kind of mail order book club, not the kind of book club where friends get together to discuss a selected book) and what&#039;re called display marketers don&#039;t factor into Bookscan numbers.

Comparatively few books get any exposure in those sorts of markets, but books that do get into such venues can indeed move an impressive amount of units.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I believe that book fairs don’t count in the BookScan list<br />
&gt; either… am I right?</p>
<p>I believe you are right. Sales to book fairs and to book clubs (the Book-of-the-Month club kind of mail order book club, not the kind of book club where friends get together to discuss a selected book) and what&#8217;re called display marketers don&#8217;t factor into Bookscan numbers.</p>
<p>Comparatively few books get any exposure in those sorts of markets, but books that do get into such venues can indeed move an impressive amount of units.</p>
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		<title>By: Queenie Chan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12958</link>
		<dc:creator>Queenie Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that book fairs don&#039;t count in the BookScan list either... am I right? I&#039;m speaking up because Scholastic ordered 45,000 copies of &quot;The Dreaming&quot; v1 (3rd print run) from TOKYOPOP for their school book fair thingys, and that was in the latter half of 2006. Those 45,000 print runs totally dwarf the first and second print runs.

Lord knows how many of these books make it into the hands of readers, but I&#039;ve been paying attention to my fan mail, especially those that mention where they got the book from. I get on average one fan mail every few days, and I&#039;ve been noticing that since October, I&#039;ve been getting mail from people who bought &quot;The Dreaming&quot; v1 at a book fair. Over half of the fan mail are from people who got the book at a book fair, and that&#039;s only among people who mention where they got the book from. So I suppose book fairs account for at least some numbers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that book fairs don&#8217;t count in the BookScan list either&#8230; am I right? I&#8217;m speaking up because Scholastic ordered 45,000 copies of &#8220;The Dreaming&#8221; v1 (3rd print run) from TOKYOPOP for their school book fair thingys, and that was in the latter half of 2006. Those 45,000 print runs totally dwarf the first and second print runs.</p>
<p>Lord knows how many of these books make it into the hands of readers, but I&#8217;ve been paying attention to my fan mail, especially those that mention where they got the book from. I get on average one fan mail every few days, and I&#8217;ve been noticing that since October, I&#8217;ve been getting mail from people who bought &#8220;The Dreaming&#8221; v1 at a book fair. Over half of the fan mail are from people who got the book at a book fair, and that&#8217;s only among people who mention where they got the book from. So I suppose book fairs account for at least some numbers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Kokmen</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12957</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Kokmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahem.  And, of course, I should take the time to proofread.  The first sentence of my post above shoud, of course, read:

&quot;Libraries AREN&#039;T represented in Bookscan.&quot;

--ATK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem.  And, of course, I should take the time to proofread.  The first sentence of my post above shoud, of course, read:</p>
<p>&#8220;Libraries AREN&#8217;T represented in Bookscan.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;ATK</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Kokmen</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12956</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Kokmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libraries are represented in Bookscan. The direct-sales-comics market isn&#039;t represented in Bookscan. Sales outside the U.S. aren&#039;t represented in Bookscan.

Graphic novel sales in each of those markets is, perhaps, a larger factor than they would be for typical non-graphic-novel books.

Taken together, those non-trivial markets can add up to a big ol&#039; non-trivial bunch of graphic novel sales that Bookscan doesn&#039;t reflect.

Bookscan has some notable lapses, but as Heidi says, it&#039;s the best we&#039;ve got now.  (And for what it&#039;s good at, it&#039;s VERY good.)

Those with access to Bookscan numbers and publisher&#039;s actual sales figures,  can probably work out some sort of relationship between what Bookscan reports and what reality is, at least in broad strokes.  But, to John Jakala&#039;s observation, I think that trying to reconcile Bookscan&#039;s actual sell-through numbers with a publisher&#039;s (legendarily unaudited) announced print runs might be more an exercise in frustration than in useful analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libraries are represented in Bookscan. The direct-sales-comics market isn&#8217;t represented in Bookscan. Sales outside the U.S. aren&#8217;t represented in Bookscan.</p>
<p>Graphic novel sales in each of those markets is, perhaps, a larger factor than they would be for typical non-graphic-novel books.</p>
<p>Taken together, those non-trivial markets can add up to a big ol&#8217; non-trivial bunch of graphic novel sales that Bookscan doesn&#8217;t reflect.</p>
<p>Bookscan has some notable lapses, but as Heidi says, it&#8217;s the best we&#8217;ve got now.  (And for what it&#8217;s good at, it&#8217;s VERY good.)</p>
<p>Those with access to Bookscan numbers and publisher&#8217;s actual sales figures,  can probably work out some sort of relationship between what Bookscan reports and what reality is, at least in broad strokes.  But, to John Jakala&#8217;s observation, I think that trying to reconcile Bookscan&#8217;s actual sell-through numbers with a publisher&#8217;s (legendarily unaudited) announced print runs might be more an exercise in frustration than in useful analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat Kan</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/02/20/more-on-bookscan/#comment-12955</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat Kan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No book distributors are listed, naturally because they aren&#039;t retailers.  But guess who most libraries buy from (and it ain&#039;t retailers).  This is what happens when you ignore a large segment of the book market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No book distributors are listed, naturally because they aren&#8217;t retailers.  But guess who most libraries buy from (and it ain&#8217;t retailers).  This is what happens when you ignore a large segment of the book market.</p>
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