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		<title>By: Spiel Jetzt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiel Jetzt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 09:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cosmoundwanda.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cosmo und Wanda Spiele&lt;/A&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Girlsoutloud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girlsoutloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm I read blogs on a similar topic, but i never visited your blog. I have added it to my favorites and ill be your constant reader.</description>
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		<title>By: Omahony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omahony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AH! This is the sort of thing I have been looking for. Great article.  Doing some research for an article. You should add buttons to the bottom of your posts to social bookmarking sitest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AH! This is the sort of thing I have been looking for. Great article.  Doing some research for an article. You should add buttons to the bottom of your posts to social bookmarking sitest.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 29, 2007: The return of Pirate Batman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Jan. 29, 2007: The return of Pirate Batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Let&#8217;s kick DC&#8217;s ass, part one: Tom Spurgeon, Dorian Wright, John Jakala and the folks from The Beat&#8217;s comments section take turns mocking a bizarre piece of promotional art emailed to various critics early Friday morning by one of DC Comics&#8217; PR flunkies. Mike Sterling, however, is just happy to see the return of Pirate Batman. (Above: the guffaw-inducing illustration in question, &#169;2007 DC Comics.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Let&#8217;s kick DC&#8217;s ass, part one: Tom Spurgeon, Dorian Wright, John Jakala and the folks from The Beat&#8217;s comments section take turns mocking a bizarre piece of promotional art emailed to various critics early Friday morning by one of DC Comics&#8217; PR flunkies. Mike Sterling, however, is just happy to see the return of Pirate Batman. (Above: the guffaw-inducing illustration in question, &copy;2007 DC Comics.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Damian Walker-Black</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/01/25/help-the-beat-understand-dcu/#comment-11950</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian Walker-Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why is Batman wearing pants?&quot;
It&#039;s a variation of one of the 8 million Bat-suits and Rah A&#039;Ghul garb; Son of the Demon type shit. But judging by the photo they are going to attempt to sell people crap yet again. You&#039;d think after all this time they&#039;d also update Barda and Scott&#039;s Kirby era outfits. Now that&#039;s thwe real injustice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why is Batman wearing pants?&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s a variation of one of the 8 million Bat-suits and Rah A&#8217;Ghul garb; Son of the Demon type shit. But judging by the photo they are going to attempt to sell people crap yet again. You&#8217;d think after all this time they&#8217;d also update Barda and Scott&#8217;s Kirby era outfits. Now that&#8217;s thwe real injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Raine</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/01/25/help-the-beat-understand-dcu/#comment-11949</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Raine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the characters and scenes are from things that span the last 27 years of DCU events-- Elseworlds, WWIII, Identity and Infinite Crisis, and 52.
No idea WHICH Flash that is; his belt confuses me.
A few characters seem to be pondering their futures-- all the ones looking toward our right. Mary Marvel&#039;s future is indeterminate. Ion nd one-time girlfriend Donna Troy in an old outfit might have something new happening together or individually. Scott Free/Mister Miracle has often been missing from the last few years of DCU and he looks as though he is pondering the fates of those recently deceased below him, as though he knows his fate in the upcoming New Gods event.

This looks like it might be an event that will &quot;explain&quot; and connect all the DCU  including Elseworlds for the last 27 years and into the near future.
(That seems to be some sort of bugaboo that editorial has, that everything be connected and &quot;make sense&quot;.) It will probably be an event book touted as the thing that will solve all the continuity problems forever even as it gets you ready for the next cataclysmic hullabaloo (just as this entry of yours asks for) that will make the DCU even more isolationist than ever before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the characters and scenes are from things that span the last 27 years of DCU events&#8211; Elseworlds, WWIII, Identity and Infinite Crisis, and 52.<br />
No idea WHICH Flash that is; his belt confuses me.<br />
A few characters seem to be pondering their futures&#8211; all the ones looking toward our right. Mary Marvel&#8217;s future is indeterminate. Ion nd one-time girlfriend Donna Troy in an old outfit might have something new happening together or individually. Scott Free/Mister Miracle has often been missing from the last few years of DCU and he looks as though he is pondering the fates of those recently deceased below him, as though he knows his fate in the upcoming New Gods event.</p>
<p>This looks like it might be an event that will &#8220;explain&#8221; and connect all the DCU  including Elseworlds for the last 27 years and into the near future.<br />
(That seems to be some sort of bugaboo that editorial has, that everything be connected and &#8220;make sense&#8221;.) It will probably be an event book touted as the thing that will solve all the continuity problems forever even as it gets you ready for the next cataclysmic hullabaloo (just as this entry of yours asks for) that will make the DCU even more isolationist than ever before.</p>
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		<title>By: A.White</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/01/25/help-the-beat-understand-dcu/#comment-11948</link>
		<dc:creator>A.White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one getting tired of seeing Superman cry like a baby?</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 02:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman&#039;s a pansy.

At least Batmans not wearing his 1930&#039;s era overunderwear and tights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman&#8217;s a pansy.</p>
<p>At least Batmans not wearing his 1930&#8217;s era overunderwear and tights.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Engblom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Engblom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My &lt;a href=&quot;http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2007/01/the_image.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two cents.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <a href="http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/2007/01/the_image.html" rel="nofollow">two cents.</a></p>
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		<title>By: CBrown</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/01/25/help-the-beat-understand-dcu/#comment-11945</link>
		<dc:creator>CBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey M,

I really don&#039;t want to defend this drawing, but I do get that backward head. Although, at first I thought it was a bad drawing of dead Superboy, and it didn&#039;t make sense to me until someone else id&#039;d him as Max Lord. So where is Dead Superboy in that picture?

Hey, Edward: &quot;- NBC’s “Heroes” looks like it may have superheroes more angsty and more humorless than they are and they don’t know if they can take the competition.&quot; And yet, it is still more fun and interesting! Weird, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey M,</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to defend this drawing, but I do get that backward head. Although, at first I thought it was a bad drawing of dead Superboy, and it didn&#8217;t make sense to me until someone else id&#8217;d him as Max Lord. So where is Dead Superboy in that picture?</p>
<p>Hey, Edward: &#8220;- NBC’s “Heroes” looks like it may have superheroes more angsty and more humorless than they are and they don’t know if they can take the competition.&#8221; And yet, it is still more fun and interesting! Weird, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey C.Brown,

Yeah, I knew it was intentional, but it looks as if they originally drew it face up, then decided at the last minute to change the orientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey C.Brown,</p>
<p>Yeah, I knew it was intentional, but it looks as if they originally drew it face up, then decided at the last minute to change the orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2007/01/25/help-the-beat-understand-dcu/#comment-11943</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Liu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DC heroes are all sad because of one or more of the following:

- They just figured out Hawkman&#039;s continuity and now he&#039;s gone from the DCU.

- Al Gore says global warming will kill us all.

- Jeff Smith&#039;s Shazam comic looks so damn good in comparison to what they have to offer.

- They are upset over the constant repeats of &quot;Legion of Superheroes&quot; on KidsWB! And also over the general lack of Triplicate Girl, even though she&#039;s in the opening credits.

- Their big guest spot in Garth Ennis&#039; &quot;The Boys&quot; is shot now that the book is leaving DC.

- NBC&#039;s &quot;Heroes&quot; looks like it may have superheroes more angsty and more humorless than they are and they don&#039;t know if they can take the competition.

- Not enough people plugging &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_01_26.html#012811&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National Gorilla Suit Day&lt;/A&gt;

- Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) still says global warming is a hoax.

- Superman is upset over the box office of his latest movie. Everybody else thinks he&#039;s being a princess about it, but you know how needy Clark can get. He gets a hangnail and EVERYBODY&#039;S gotta come running.

- They can&#039;t figure out who the new Ronin is in New New Avengers.

- The HDTV in the Justice League satellite is on the fritz and Geek Squad isn&#039;t answering their calls.

- They realize they must &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2007/01/kneel-before-my-strong-healthy-teeth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kneel before Dave Campbell&#039;s Strong, Healthy Teeth.&lt;/A&gt;

- &quot;When is Brad Meltzer going to do something really cool in JLA??!?&quot;

- None of them understand any of this damn global warming crap, even after watching &quot;Happy Feet.&quot;

- They&#039;re afraid &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://panelsandpixels.blogspot.com/2007/01/graphic-lit-interview-with-darwyn-cooke.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Darwyn Cooke may be right&lt;/A&gt;.

I could be wrong about some of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DC heroes are all sad because of one or more of the following:</p>
<p>- They just figured out Hawkman&#8217;s continuity and now he&#8217;s gone from the DCU.</p>
<p>- Al Gore says global warming will kill us all.</p>
<p>- Jeff Smith&#8217;s Shazam comic looks so damn good in comparison to what they have to offer.</p>
<p>- They are upset over the constant repeats of &#8220;Legion of Superheroes&#8221; on KidsWB! And also over the general lack of Triplicate Girl, even though she&#8217;s in the opening credits.</p>
<p>- Their big guest spot in Garth Ennis&#8217; &#8220;The Boys&#8221; is shot now that the book is leaving DC.</p>
<p>- NBC&#8217;s &#8220;Heroes&#8221; looks like it may have superheroes more angsty and more humorless than they are and they don&#8217;t know if they can take the competition.</p>
<p>- Not enough people plugging <a HREF="http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2007_01_26.html#012811" rel="nofollow">National Gorilla Suit Day</a></p>
<p>- Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) still says global warming is a hoax.</p>
<p>- Superman is upset over the box office of his latest movie. Everybody else thinks he&#8217;s being a princess about it, but you know how needy Clark can get. He gets a hangnail and EVERYBODY&#8217;S gotta come running.</p>
<p>- They can&#8217;t figure out who the new Ronin is in New New Avengers.</p>
<p>- The HDTV in the Justice League satellite is on the fritz and Geek Squad isn&#8217;t answering their calls.</p>
<p>- They realize they must <a HREF="http://daveslongbox.blogspot.com/2007/01/kneel-before-my-strong-healthy-teeth.html" rel="nofollow">kneel before Dave Campbell&#8217;s Strong, Healthy Teeth.</a></p>
<p>- &#8220;When is Brad Meltzer going to do something really cool in JLA??!?&#8221;</p>
<p>- None of them understand any of this damn global warming crap, even after watching &#8220;Happy Feet.&#8221;</p>
<p>- They&#8217;re afraid <a HREF="http://panelsandpixels.blogspot.com/2007/01/graphic-lit-interview-with-darwyn-cooke.html" rel="nofollow">Darwyn Cooke may be right</a>.</p>
<p>I could be wrong about some of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Kokmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Kokmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; wait- isn’t the DCU all fictional cities? where is the statue of liberty?

The DCU isn&#039;t ALL fictional citites. The DCU&#039;s got a New York City, as well as a Gotham and a Metropolis and whatever else.

Still, as I said over at COMICON PULSE, I find my tastes for seeing New York&#039;s buildings and monuments lying in rubble is a little less than it was when I was younger.  It&#039;s an exciting image and I&#039;m sure whatever event it ties to will be great comics, but then again, I find myself kinda wanting to see a story someday where our heroes, for example, prevent the Statue of Liberty from going ka-blooey instead of just standing around its wreckage...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; wait- isn’t the DCU all fictional cities? where is the statue of liberty?</p>
<p>The DCU isn&#8217;t ALL fictional citites. The DCU&#8217;s got a New York City, as well as a Gotham and a Metropolis and whatever else.</p>
<p>Still, as I said over at COMICON PULSE, I find my tastes for seeing New York&#8217;s buildings and monuments lying in rubble is a little less than it was when I was younger.  It&#8217;s an exciting image and I&#8217;m sure whatever event it ties to will be great comics, but then again, I find myself kinda wanting to see a story someday where our heroes, for example, prevent the Statue of Liberty from going ka-blooey instead of just standing around its wreckage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ivan brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivan brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait- isn&#039;t the DCU all fictional cities?  where is the statue of liberty?</description>
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		<title>By: Primate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Primate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DCU does appeal to me.  I am a mega-DC fanboy.  And DC&#039;s output of late has been very dark since Identity Crisis.  BUT, well written, IMHO.  So I have kept reading.  Good writing trumps the darkness, for me.

And yet, looking at this image of things to come, I just feel exhausted.  I know that zero conflict = zero story, but couldn&#039;t DC spend a couple of years with a wee bit of light-heartedness?  Wsa anyone else shocked by the brutal gutting of a female characetr in the last issue of GL Corps?  Made Sue Dibney look bright and shiny by coparison.  Meanwhile, Cooke&#039;s Spirit, Dini&#039;s Batman, Morrison&#039;s Superman, the Johns/Donner Superman, and Johns&#039; Green Lantern are all fun, witty, and approachable to non-nerds, the kind of comics we used to call &quot;high-octane&quot; without resorting to cheap shock tactics.  And the characters in those books have adevntures that do not involve constantly weeping or gnashing their teeth or being raped or raping or twisting heads off, or whatever.  So obviosuly DC knows how to create engaging comics, without all the darkness, when it chooses to do so.

Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis and 52 have all been well and good, and advanced the mega-plots, and added new menace to the DCU, and just told a damn good yarn, pure and simple.  All of Didio&#039;s stated goals with those projects have been met, i think.  But I am ready for some FUN back in my funnybooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DCU does appeal to me.  I am a mega-DC fanboy.  And DC&#8217;s output of late has been very dark since Identity Crisis.  BUT, well written, IMHO.  So I have kept reading.  Good writing trumps the darkness, for me.</p>
<p>And yet, looking at this image of things to come, I just feel exhausted.  I know that zero conflict = zero story, but couldn&#8217;t DC spend a couple of years with a wee bit of light-heartedness?  Wsa anyone else shocked by the brutal gutting of a female characetr in the last issue of GL Corps?  Made Sue Dibney look bright and shiny by coparison.  Meanwhile, Cooke&#8217;s Spirit, Dini&#8217;s Batman, Morrison&#8217;s Superman, the Johns/Donner Superman, and Johns&#8217; Green Lantern are all fun, witty, and approachable to non-nerds, the kind of comics we used to call &#8220;high-octane&#8221; without resorting to cheap shock tactics.  And the characters in those books have adevntures that do not involve constantly weeping or gnashing their teeth or being raped or raping or twisting heads off, or whatever.  So obviosuly DC knows how to create engaging comics, without all the darkness, when it chooses to do so.</p>
<p>Identity Crisis and Infinite Crisis and 52 have all been well and good, and advanced the mega-plots, and added new menace to the DCU, and just told a damn good yarn, pure and simple.  All of Didio&#8217;s stated goals with those projects have been met, i think.  But I am ready for some FUN back in my funnybooks.</p>
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