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		<title>By: HoundsRye</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9432</link>
		<dc:creator>HoundsRye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the argument may not be &#039;comix are not just for kids.&#039; I think the real challenge, in the quest to induct more of/and a new readership to graphic novels, is the work the reader must do to experience the story. Or what may be perceived as an unfinished medium by non-critical readers and media pundits.

Dave Cockrum himself cried as he watch Xmen finally fleshed out on the movie screen - coming to life, seemingly for real (as reported in an obit in USA Today - 11/29/06 - &quot;Dave saw the movie and he cried — not because he was bitter,&quot; (Cifford) Meth said. &quot;He cried because his characters were on screen and they were living.&quot;). There is a success that movie making achieves in bolstering the comix experience. The Xmen movies moved me in my appreciation of the Xmen series. It added gravity.

Then I read on Drawn.ca that comix creators themselves are growing weary of creating when it is easier to express a situation simply in a blog entry. Previously, they would have drawn it out as a comix one-pager.

Between the movie screen and the typed word, there is a space where creators strive to novelize comics and the reader strives to experience the aura of the story fully. It takes a lot of skill to hold an audience that must jump from words written to drawn pictures. I think it&#039;s a physiological gap.

I must refer to Dr. Osamu Tezuka (the creator of Astro Boy). His Buddha graphic novel cycle is an example of fully adept picture story telling that is so smooth, it is easy to absorb. Chris Ware is another graphic novelist whose delivery is skilled and smooth. The American market will embrace the gravity of the graphic novel when the graphic novel embodies more gravity - by skills that are powered by long experience.

I read the graphic novel about the New York woman with breast cancer and I think it received attention in the press that surpassed the actual quality of the work itself. Best wishes to the author, but it is a sketchy styled work that would flesh out well as a Lifetime Channel movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the argument may not be &#8216;comix are not just for kids.&#8217; I think the real challenge, in the quest to induct more of/and a new readership to graphic novels, is the work the reader must do to experience the story. Or what may be perceived as an unfinished medium by non-critical readers and media pundits.</p>
<p>Dave Cockrum himself cried as he watch Xmen finally fleshed out on the movie screen &#8211; coming to life, seemingly for real (as reported in an obit in USA Today &#8211; 11/29/06 &#8211; &#8220;Dave saw the movie and he cried — not because he was bitter,&#8221; (Cifford) Meth said. &#8220;He cried because his characters were on screen and they were living.&#8221;). There is a success that movie making achieves in bolstering the comix experience. The Xmen movies moved me in my appreciation of the Xmen series. It added gravity.</p>
<p>Then I read on Drawn.ca that comix creators themselves are growing weary of creating when it is easier to express a situation simply in a blog entry. Previously, they would have drawn it out as a comix one-pager.</p>
<p>Between the movie screen and the typed word, there is a space where creators strive to novelize comics and the reader strives to experience the aura of the story fully. It takes a lot of skill to hold an audience that must jump from words written to drawn pictures. I think it&#8217;s a physiological gap.</p>
<p>I must refer to Dr. Osamu Tezuka (the creator of Astro Boy). His Buddha graphic novel cycle is an example of fully adept picture story telling that is so smooth, it is easy to absorb. Chris Ware is another graphic novelist whose delivery is skilled and smooth. The American market will embrace the gravity of the graphic novel when the graphic novel embodies more gravity &#8211; by skills that are powered by long experience.</p>
<p>I read the graphic novel about the New York woman with breast cancer and I think it received attention in the press that surpassed the actual quality of the work itself. Best wishes to the author, but it is a sketchy styled work that would flesh out well as a Lifetime Channel movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oct. 31, 2006: All quiet on the Halloween front</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9431</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Oct. 31, 2006: All quiet on the Halloween front</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heidi MacDonald has a fairly comprehensive round-up of links to further reactions to Tony Long&#8217;s big anti-graphic novel screed from last week. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Heidi MacDonald has a fairly comprehensive round-up of links to further reactions to Tony Long&#8217;s big anti-graphic novel screed from last week. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9430</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just plain don&#039;t like Miller, I guess. Took me a while to figure this out, but eventually I came to the conclusion that all the work of his everyone else liked, I disliked. Grotesque politics are a turn-off for me, as are bad history and poor art. It is perhaps inevitable that he is an influence, but I guess that&#039;s a better commentary on the state of this medium than anything else I could devise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just plain don&#8217;t like Miller, I guess. Took me a while to figure this out, but eventually I came to the conclusion that all the work of his everyone else liked, I disliked. Grotesque politics are a turn-off for me, as are bad history and poor art. It is perhaps inevitable that he is an influence, but I guess that&#8217;s a better commentary on the state of this medium than anything else I could devise.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Deppey</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9429</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Deppey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still a bit dubious over this whole &quot;competition&quot; thing. Most of the people I know read all three mentioned blogs, plus the Newsarama blog and a few favorites on top of that. It&#039;s not like we&#039;re divvying up an audience that only goes to one source for their comics news, or anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still a bit dubious over this whole &#8220;competition&#8221; thing. Most of the people I know read all three mentioned blogs, plus the Newsarama blog and a few favorites on top of that. It&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re divvying up an audience that only goes to one source for their comics news, or anything.</p>
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		<title>By: The Beat</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9428</link>
		<dc:creator>The Beat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thompson is of course a hugely influential figure. But like it or not, so is Miller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thompson is of course a hugely influential figure. But like it or not, so is Miller.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9427</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um. I don&#039;t know if I would compare Frank Miller to Hunter S. Thompson... that&#039;s kind of specious, isn&#039;t it? Especially since one was one of the most gifted writers of the second half of the twentieth century, and the other, um, made some halfway decent Daredevil comics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um. I don&#8217;t know if I would compare Frank Miller to Hunter S. Thompson&#8230; that&#8217;s kind of specious, isn&#8217;t it? Especially since one was one of the most gifted writers of the second half of the twentieth century, and the other, um, made some halfway decent Daredevil comics?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bieser</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9426</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bieser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone on the ENGINE once said to me in a different context:

Wordy MacWord.

I am also developing a theory about how the blossoming of the graphic story form in both content and general acceptance, and the blossoming of the blogosphere, are mutually reinforcing. But I don&#039;t have a thought-out analysis and right now I need to go back to drawing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone on the ENGINE once said to me in a different context:</p>
<p>Wordy MacWord.</p>
<p>I am also developing a theory about how the blossoming of the graphic story form in both content and general acceptance, and the blossoming of the blogosphere, are mutually reinforcing. But I don&#8217;t have a thought-out analysis and right now I need to go back to drawing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kois</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9425</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 02:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent manifesto, full of points well taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent manifesto, full of points well taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Cranbury</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9424</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Cranbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is great.  Moving the debate about comix into the greater public sphere is fantastic.  Tony Long may be a bit of a freak... but he actually has done the artform a favor by criticizing it in print.  His views are arcane and addled but he&#039;s added some fuel to the bonfire that continues to grow.  This debate will grow until they name the NBA winner and long after that, too.  This is just the beginning.  Thank you, Tony Long!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is great.  Moving the debate about comix into the greater public sphere is fantastic.  Tony Long may be a bit of a freak&#8230; but he actually has done the artform a favor by criticizing it in print.  His views are arcane and addled but he&#8217;s added some fuel to the bonfire that continues to grow.  This debate will grow until they name the NBA winner and long after that, too.  This is just the beginning.  Thank you, Tony Long!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmie Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9423</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmie Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and well thought out piece, Heidi.  To the defenses, countrymen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and well thought out piece, Heidi.  To the defenses, countrymen!</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.comicsbeat.com/2006/10/30/comics-defenders-assemble/#comment-9422</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure that judges for a contest dominated by prose books will treat anything other than prose books fairly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that judges for a contest dominated by prose books will treat anything other than prose books fairly.</p>
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